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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As long as the fediverse has a barrier to entry for most people of mandating choosing a server first, it will never become the mainstream choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hey... that just gave me a small idea... what if we made a "flock" or "herd" of Mastodon servers? The group of servers would all federate with each other, have the same block and allow lists, moderation policy and teams spread throughout them.

When you make an account you can be assigned a random instance name within the flock. If your instance goes down you could still possibly log in using other servers? Main benefit would be spreading server costs and maintenance effort and de-centralized operating, but still keep a centralized feel to it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If the fediverse ever wants to scale, something like this has to come about. I personally think we need a whole lot of regional servers. For example, we make a cluster of servers by country, so lemmy.us, Lemmy.de, etc. Then, when those servers start to fill to a certain threshold (say 1000 users), we break them out regionally, so lemmy.ne.us, lemmy.se.us, etc. The way servers are assigned would be by selecting your country and region. It shouldn't be too complex and would simplify the sign up people for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're assuming that all those servers would have the same policies and admins.

As we can see from their recent announcement, the LW team has some specific policies in their Terms of Service that no other instance replicates.

You are thinking about load balancing, but that can be handled by Cloudflare or something else, it's doesn't have to be a different instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We already see lag in comments and posts with the current load. It could be buggy apps as this is relatively new, but who knows. I am no network engineer, but I would imagine that issue to only get worse as user numbers increase.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

If you see lag, you should try using a different instance. LW was noticeably slow during summer 2021, a lot of people moved to other instances due to that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Honestly that’s probably the best sort of solution. A group that has some minimum standards of moderation and maintenance/upgrade management plan and just evenly distribute the load as people arrive.

Then as a second phase make it easy to transfer, that way at the point the user gets comfortable they can easily swap to a better* “home” for those that care, for those that don’t, make the server choice be virtually invisible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

im gonna be real, this guy sounds like a loser. he talks about the progressive political lean and the porn as if they're BAD things

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Porn industry is certainly a bad thing though. It is quite hostile to women, and many have been harmed by it and wished they had a good exit.

Bit I definitely agree that progressive lean is a good thing. Fwiw I didn't read this article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I know women in porn who say the opposite.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Certainly some will say that, and even more would do if your environment is privileged (such as a safe neighborhood in the west or USA). You have to look at aggregate data, not anecdotes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

When there in it, i'm sure there is going to be a bit of a bias.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All these "why are people using Bluesky and not Mastodon" topics are starting to give me a headache. You've been told and on some level, I have to assume you understand the reasons, but are simply unwilling to address them. When people say, "it's difficult to use" instead of understanding why they think that way, you just dismissively wave your hands and say, "no it's not".

If you want people to use Mastodon, you need to SHOW people the power of federation while HIDING all the rough bits. People want to go to where the friends, writers, artists, scientists, etc. they want to follow are and sign up for an account there. Simple as. In this way, they very much want at least the appearance of centralization. I don't want to have to get balls deep in an instance's politics to understand their moderation, who they're federated with, if they have the funds to operate into the foreseeable future, and how to migrate my data if any of those things goes sideways.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I remember when I first tried to use Mastodon and struggled with how best to make it work, so I asked what was probably a basic question to the Enlightened™. Instead of being helped, I was met with "it's easy, maybe you're just dense?".

Then I thought that maybe Mastodon doesn't have the kind of people I'd want to interact with on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

While I generally avoid politics on this blog, it’s hard to ignore the political biases permeating X and BlueSky. X has veered heavily toward far-right ideologies, while BlueSky is often associated with far-left communities. This polarized landscape doesn’t work for those of us seeking a neutral space for meaningful interactions.

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