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Happy birthday to Let's Encrypt !

Huge thanks to everyone involved in making HTTPS available to everyone for free !

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

Lol I instinctively freaked out when I saw the post preview assuming it was going to be a post about a major data breach or exploit of some sort relating to Let's Encrypt.

I probably need more positivity in my life πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

Underrated. Stuff rocks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago

Huge impact on a tiny budget - that’s extremely impressive. The world could be so much better without rent seeking parasites.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago

And it changed the Internet, for good and a lot.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Man I love let's encrypt, remember how terrible ssl was before the project landed?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I always had to fill out multiple pages of forms to get those free 1 year "trial" certs from startssl.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Oh man, I forgot about startssl until just now. I definitely had a few of those certs. If you wanted something fancy like a wildcard cert back then, you were paying $$$

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Remember they wanted like $75 for certs? The gall.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Crazy times. Nowadays it's weird when a website doesn't have https. Back then it was pretty much big companies only. And the price of a wildcard certificate...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Except for neverssl.com

Triggering the launch of captive portals for public Wi-Fi users everywhere yayy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 hours ago

And if you remember, that this whole shebang was only started, because Snowden revealed that the NSA spied on all of us, it's getting much much darker.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago

I did not have the money to pay the insane amounts these greedy for-profit certificate authorities asked, so I only remember the pain of trying to setup my self-signed root certificate on my several devices/browsers, and then being unable to recover my private key because I went over the top with securing it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago

Damn! That's definitely a "I'm old" moment for me. I still remember when I first heard about the concept and I remember setting it up the first time on a self hosted project (which seemed harder back then).

Awesome project!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Let's Encrypt is amazing, but are there any equally trustworthy alternatives people could switch to if something bad happens to it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They came up with the ACME protocol, so presumably somebody could. The real barrier to entry is the cost of getting into that certificate chain of trust. I have no idea why it's so difficult and expensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Well, it's difficult, as it should be, because if you control a certificate in the active chain of trust of browsers, you can hack pretty much anything you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the CA only signing your public key to prove identity/authority? I don't think the CA can magically MITM every cert they sign.

The impact is serious enough to warrant a $1m entry fee, IMO. At best, someone could impersonate a site. They'd also have to get other things in line (e.g. DNS hijacking) to be at all successful anyway. And it's not like most people are authenticating certs themselves. They just trust browsers to trust CAs that vouch for you and prevents those scary browser warnings.

It doesn't improve encryption compared to a self-signed cert though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If it begins to enshitify, someone will quickly take up the helm. It's become so core now that someone like Cloudflare would just be like "We do this now."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Cloudflare sort of provides this now by being a MITM to secure your site between your server and the end user. But this requires you and your end user to trust Cloudflare.

And fwiw the ACME protocol is open so anyone can implement it. I believe even the ACME software that EFF sends out allows you to choose your server with some configuration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Maybe ZeroSSL

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Yay for their glorious, free trusted ssl certs. Love this project!