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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'd say mastodon is a better choice, mostly so that you're not beholden to yet another profit-focused tech corporation. I'm sure Bluesky is fine right now, but once they have their userbase they will shift to monetization - and you may regret letting yourself become entrenched in the world they control. They're not doing it for your benefit.

That said, I've come to understand that a lot of people kind of like having their content feed controlled by others. When they only see what they ask for, they get bored. So I'm expecting Bluesky to always be bigger than Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's all cyclical anyway. No social media company will reign forever. We've already seen a number of them rise and fall. It's kinda like how different civilizations gained and lost dominance throughout history.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Toys-R-Us fell...nothing is forever.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

mastodon blew it by attacking people who had legitimate concerns about the service during the first migration.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yep. And also, like I said in https://privacy.thenexus.today/bluesky-atmosphere-fediverse/

For one thing, most of the people who came to Mastodon in late 2022 didn't have good experiences ... so didn't stay in the Fediverse.6 Flash forward to 2024, and Mastodon still hasn't addressed the reasons why.

Bluesky, by contrast, has put a lot of work into onboarding and usability – as well as giving people better tools protect themselves and others, and find and build communities ... So today, BTS ARMY and millions of Brazilians, and everybody else looking for a Twitter alternative are more likely to have a good experience on Bluesky than Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Mastodon isn't a person. So I don't know who you are talking about when you say 'mastodon was attacking people'. I certainly didn't see anything like that. Perhaps you have an example link for context?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

bsky is currently the only social network with a woman of colour ceo, which is pretty awesome imo (i hate how people always try to incorrectly say jack dorsey created it when it erases jay's work)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Great point. And Jay won the power struggle with Jack, which almost nobody gives her credit for.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love that a Twitter founder founded Bluesky and the logo went from the outline of a white bird on a blue background to the outline of a white butterfly on a similar shade of blue background.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

jack didn't found bluesky he was just on a board which provided some early funding; he had no role in the development.

and the butterfly was partially due to the community. https://bsky.social/about/blog/12-21-2023-butterfly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

blueskys previous logo was just a real sky fun fact till they change it to butterfly

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go to your favorite content creators and ask them to create a profile on Bluesky. If you don't ask them, how are they supposed to know?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm still on the fence about that...I think it'd make more sense for many to drop social media and opt for their own site with RSS feeds. A lot of social media for some is little more than a noisier RSS reader. Sometimes even literally with those with auto-playing videos. 😬

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Y'all are delulu/out of touch with normal people if you think they're gonna set up an RSS feed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Nah, I get that normal people wouldn't, but I can dream. It's so much better than making Yet Another Account. Plus I know in set up we're talkin' people pulling the feed into a reader, but also for content creators making sites, loads of sitebuilding software already has RSS baked in, so it's not even that big an ask from them.

If there's another more convenient no-sign-up method of keeping up with sites and stuff online, I'd love to know, 'cause I know many aren't about to use RSS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But how would the bots reply? That's what generates foot traffic, which is what brings ads, which is what is not enough to pay for the bills!

Perfect business model, I had a VC review it and got high marks

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 3 days ago (11 children)

we've been seeing these "twitter's in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!" headlines for how many years now?

yet people refuse to just delete it

i can't wait for the day i can go a full 24 hours without twitter shit showing up on every feed

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm on Bluesky. I have seen a drama increase in followers in the last few days since Twitter let blocked people see content that were blocked from.

It's a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

I had to decide if I was going to Mastodon or Bluesky. I picked Bluesky because after reading Mastodon's integration problems with itself I wanted nothing to do with it. It couldn't scale unless each instance played nice and in the years since it went live they had refused to do that and showed no signs of even moving in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have seen a drama increase in followers

If there's one thing a social media site loves, its a drama increase.

It’s a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

Honestly, more than anything, it feels like an indictment of Threads. That was supposed to be the big party spot for creatives, journalists, and D-list celebrities following the burn out of Twitter. But modern Threads just feels like the worst kind of Hype-House crossbred with LinkedIn.

BlueSky feels a lot more like a vintage '00s social media site, which is all people really wanted. Hope it survives its own popularity better than Twitter did. But for now, life is good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I'm leaving the drama typo. You made it too good to take away

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mastodon is scaling fine though? I've been using it for years, and it's great, and still growing. User base is a bit tech focused, could be more general, but I think it'll get there eventually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are instances federated or rag-tag islands?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Any instance that interacts with any other instance is federated. Which is the vast majority of instances with more than a handful of users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

islands can be good (for unpopular/generally hated content)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry that whoever down voted you didn't see what you were doing.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What are the Mastadon Integration problems?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I'm pretty sure they're referring to the concept of defederation and how that can splinter the platform.

Bluesky is ""federated"" in largely the same ways as Mastodon, but there's basically one and only one instance anyone cares about. The federation capability is just lip service to the minority of dorks like us who care.

To the vast majority of Twitter refugees, federation as a concept is not a feature, it's an irritation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You could just stay on the biggest mastadon instance and not care about anything. Wouldn't be too different than just using bluesky.

Preferring handcuffs because it's more seemless sounds like a terrible mindset

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

an irritation

I get it, hearing about federation is the worst part of this site . Y'all sound like coinbros "here's the most inefficient storage method, lets call it something easy to remember and sell it as a feature!"

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Taking a page out of Valves book.

Doing nothing and let the competition drive customers your way.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Not really what Valve did. Valve kept doing cool things that benefit the customer, while the competition actively drove them away.

I don't follow social media. Is BlueSky feature rich and only getting better?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The biggest thing that valve did that kept them in everyone's good graces is that steam's core functionality hasn't had any major changes in years. Dare I say, more than a decade.

It's a platform where you buy games, download them, and play them.

In the early days you still had to deal with all the bullshit, including third party launcher installs and crap to get things going, and over time, valve simplified all of that, making it easier than ever to take advantage of the core function of steam: buying, downloading, and playing games.

Literally the only improvement I can absolutely, positively credit them for, is making that entire process, easier, simpler, and quicker, than ever.

Sure, you can chat to people, track achievements, comment on your profile, comment on your friends profiles, buy and sell cosmetics on the market thing, even voice chat and I think they have a way you can stream your game to friends.... Not sure on that last one.

It's like Facebook, FB marketplace, FB messenger, discord, Twitter... And a bunch of other services, all huddled together to make a bastard child with the entire PC video game industry.... That's steam.

But the core mechanic that was always the main reason why steam was great, remains the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you might be underselling how important things like the steam workshop and steam's multiplayer support are.

Games like Starbound or Don't Starve benefit a lot from the workshop.

While insert any party game gains a lot out of steam's multiplayer support and friend list.

Also, while I don't use Linux myself, Steam is one of the main reasons why Linux Gaming is a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

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