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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 weeks ago (60 children)

Fourth turning theory is fashy crap written by a play write and a business fund manager (people with no credentials for historical analysis), worshipped by people like Steve Banon.

Accordingly it's totally subjective, a guessing game.

Truth is: No one can predict what's going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

Fwiw it’s playwright

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Boomers were born on the third base and think they hit a triple

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Triples makes it safe. Triples is best

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Gen X ignored again, with which we are okay though.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was gonna post that but then I was, like, whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly the comment I was looking for. Tip of the hat to you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Only thing that isn't okay is to mangle your sentence to conform to the obsolete "never end a sentence with a preposition because some old fogey said so hundreds of years ago" rule 😛

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm ok with ignoring this rule. Most of us do anyway. While we're at it, can we also put "never split the infinitive" on the chopping block?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

ESL here, what would have been the more natural way?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's an invented prescriptionist rule that was imported from studying Latin. You can completely ignore it and you'll get more natural sounding language.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We should just revive everyone who contributed to this dumpster fire and make them fix it before they can go back to being dead.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Do we REALLY want zombie Reagan and hundreds of others like that running around again? I dunno about you guys, but I'm so tired of living through Interesting Times ™️ and Unprecedented Events ™️. A zombie apocalypse where they don't eat our brains, but just fuck up the economy even more doesn't sound fun.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the 1% against the working class, not generation against generation.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

To be fair, us genX did nothing about anything and just felt cool wallowing in our fake cynicism of "why do anything when nothing matters" so we're probably half as much to blame as the boomers

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's a certain selection bias to the "Weak Men, Hard Times / Strong Men, Good Times" just so historical analysis. You don't talk about all the folks that die during good times or bad times. You just point to the old people and your brain slips right past the selection bias that allowed them to live and others to die.

Trying to blame this generation or that is a fool's errand. What do you tell a population of Gen Xers who were dragged out to the suburbs and raised in these segregated hermitages for twenty years, then plunged into the capitalist meat grinder at the tail end of the post-war boom years? "Hey, you should have all just psychically linked up and formed a socio-economic Voltron to change a century's old system overnight"? Who can seriously believe that? The deck was stacked against you and yet we still have a litany of Gen Xers who struggled - even died - in their effort to undo the damage of prior generations.

And what do you say to all the children of WW2 refugees who washed up on America's shores and struggled to carve out a life for themselves in the graveyards of the First Nation's people? Or the Cold War refugees - the Korean and Vietnamese and Indonesian and Taiwanese and Venezuelan and Cuban and Spanish and Russian and North Africa and... and... and... - who came into the US as children and were promptly indoctrinated to hate their home countries by the white supremacist majordomos of the American imperial class?

Its easy to blame yourself or your neighbors or your generation. Its hard to see the bigger picture and how each of us fit into it. Its hard to know if we're doing the right thing, or doing enough of the right thing, or who is with us and who is against us given the sheer tsunami of bullshit in our information networks.

We're playing the game on Hard Mode. And I don't think anyone who cares enough to question and inquire about their efforts can really be held to blame. It's the folks who have burned the ability to care out of their souls that hold us back. And that's not a decision unique to a region or time period.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, you were directly under thier control when they were in their biological primes so fighting back would have been harder. Also, it's you parents and all. So don't sweat it too much

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Boomers and Gen X lived in a paradise, destroyed it and now complain that things are shit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Boomers really more than Gen X

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Boomers see the world wildly and in wild ways

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I Think You Should Leave is such a gold mine of meme templates.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's even an ITYSL meme maker & quote database

ithinkyoushouldquote.me

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Strongman leaders create hard times.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

"hard men make good times, good times make soft men, and soft men make me hard" -Richard Rider

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

This is bullshit. Boomers, genXers and now millenials have been fighting against wild capitalism for decades, and a lot of them died fighting or are rotting in jail right now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bickering about what generation is better. My favorite topic. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't need to give air to a fascist myth

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

thanks, now my brain will forever connect this myth to gay sex

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Dunno, I hear lots of young people say that.

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