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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sounds like utter bullshit to me, but we’ll see what the peer review process comes out with.

Nobody should be reporting on studies that haven’t been peer reviewed. It’s often sensationalist nonsense, much like drugs that haven’t gone through clinical trials yet.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe we could confirm that the chickens are screaming and pleading for their lives and for the eggs that will never hatch.

I agree let us wait.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Interesting that they think there's a single universal voice amongst hens. I've got a small flock of a dozen birds, and they each have distinct voices and calls. You can always tell who just finished laying by which egg song you're hearing, until the others join in and it's a cacophony.

We've got one anericauna who likes to "scream" for her egg song. Awful sound, very close to a hen screaming because a bobcat got her.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

The chicken whisperer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think that they think that. All humans have different voices, yet it's pretty easy to tell what mood someone is in, even if you don't know the languages. Why would you assume that chickens express these so differently that it can't be interpreted automatically, when the same is possible for us with much higher ranges of possible expressions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't have to be a universal voice, just something consistent in the noise. Neat thing with lots of AI training is we don't have to necessarily even have a theory of what the AI is picking out. It just has to be in the training data and our hints during training have to be appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need this for babies :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're not getting consent from those chickens to use their clucks as training data they're engaging in animal abuse. Stealing their voices, how cruel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

🧂🧂🧂

You know you're being disingenuous with this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

They’re violating the chickens intellectual property by training the model on the chickens sounds without legally binding consent from the chickens to train on their data.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the chickens banded together and sued for copyright infringement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know, a chicken at the state fair beat me at tic-tac-toe when I was 10: they must be pretty smart.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

This is literally the argument Vegans use. Also practically the argument writers are using.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The AI system is based on a technique the researchers called "Deep Emotional Analysis Learning," which can adapt to changing vocal patterns.

The study found that the system was capable of translating "various emotional states in chickens, including hunger, fear, anger, contentment, excitement, and distress."

The researchers tested the system on 80 chickens for the study and collaborated with a team of animal psychologists and veterinarians.

The system was able to achieve surprisingly high accuracy in identifying the birds' emotional states, the study found.

"The high average probabilities of detection for each emotion suggest that our model has learned to capture meaningful patterns and features from the chicken sounds," it said.

The researchers acknowledged potential limitations, including variations in breeds and the complexity of some communications, such as body language.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After spending the day reading about NLP, this is an interesting article to pop up on my feed to say the least...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Natural language processing. Basically what all the "AI" stuff is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nah man Neuro-Linguistic Poultry is a specific implementation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A poultry task!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Adrian (the PI) is such an unusual, mad genius kind of guy. Peer reviewed or not, it would be cool if he and others managed to help us understand animals better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would do they know their feelings in the first place? You need to have matched those feelings to sounds in the first place to train the model.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not hard to scare a chicken

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but this isn't claiming that they've built a model that only differentiates between scared and not scared.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do I really need to say it's not hard to tell if a chicken is hungry?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone that's kept chickens can tell you what the different sounds mean -- they're not complicated creatures.