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Uber: EU rules will see us pull out of “hundreds” of European cities — Brussels’ proposal to classify gig workers as de facto employees could slam the breaks on operations across the bloc::An Uber boss has issued a stark warning that Brussels' proposal to classify gig workers as de facto employees could slam the breaks on operations across the bloc.

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[–] [email protected] 251 points 1 year ago (21 children)

"Our business model isn't sustainable unless we remove worker rights"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

luckely everyone has become wary of what these tech bros startups are all about. Tech companies like this just add extra steps to a preexisting business and pride themselves of being innovative

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

But but but, there's an app, surely that's worth all the downsides right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget consumer protections!

Uber somehow managed to convince people that it’s not their fault if their drivers don’t follow traffic laws, drive intoxicated, and assault people.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The hubris of thinking that a random driver-exploiting app is some kind of godsend utility and we'll be scared of losing it.

At this point the old school taxi companies have their apps too, you're not the cool kid anymore, uber

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

All anyone ever wanted was an app. Uber stopped being cheapna decade ago. It's not competitive so let it die.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Around here any taxi driver can have their rating on the online app reset to 5 stars for $50 whenever their want.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you can't pay your workers ethically then your business doesn't deserve to exist. Simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Yes. These people are not entitled to be business owners. If they can't hack it, then get out of the way for the people that can. But don't worry, business owners - I'm sure you'd be perfectly happy being a gig worker for another company instead, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Tell that to the shareholders

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your business model requires the economic exploitation of your workers, your company possesses no legitimate reason to exist.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Similar to what I always say: if your company's survival relies on tax evasion, you shouldn't have a company.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This might not be universal, but here it doesn't even require it.

Back in 2017, Uber tried to expand to my home province and tried to get us to change our local regulations regarding rideshare (it boiled down to Uber being required to call its drivers employees and to function like the pre-existing taxi services).

Local government doesn't budge, so Uber decides that it doesn't want to come anymore. Within the year, a local alternative pops up that complies with the regulations Uber tried to fight, and they're still profitable 6 years later.

It's not that Uber isn't capable of paying their employees living wages, it's that they can earn more money if they don't.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago

"Since 2021 in the UK, Uber drivers are considered ‘workers’, which is not full employee status but does mean they receive sick pay and annual leave.

The firm has gone further than UK competitors including Ola and Bolt in worker benefits.

The number of drivers on the UK platform has doubled in recent years."

Go fuck yourself uber.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly that's good, who cares ?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having just returned from Australia on vacation, I'll say it was extremely inconvenient when Uber wasn't in a region. We even managed to get stuck in a small airport because there were no regular taxis, and the local Taxi app simply didn't work for the required 2fa with a foreign phone number (though the UI for selecting country was there, no text was ever received).

Uber is great when available while traveling. Makes life so much easier.

That said, I fully support regulating them to have to support their drivers as any other employer. Fuck them and their repeated threats to their ball and go home. Force them out of every market until they concede and restructure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Um, you do realise that the only reason you couldn't get a normal taxi was because Uber's business model was to destroy the industry and take over?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

... yes, they destroyed the taxi industry in a remote airport where they never rolled out service to. Right.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

Okay, byeee!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Good, if someone is selling their labor they should be protected as an employee.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

I'm going to celebrate the day when they 'pull out' of hundreds of European cities.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

As a European, all I can say is good riddance, you greasy fuckers.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

So people will go back to fairly-paid taxi drivers. Not seeing a problem here.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

EU please do what California utterly failed to do!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes. Fuck off then.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

F you, Uber.

They tried to bypass taxi laws in our main city and the municipality just kicked them out. Never thought I would say it, but here am I:

Good job, government. Well done.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

An Uber boss has issued a stark warning that Brussels’ proposal to classify gig workers as de facto employees could slam the breaks on operations across the bloc.

don't you dare threaten us with a good time

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Oh no- anyway.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Well... bye.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Good fuck em

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

all the better

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

When will this happen?

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