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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh and .clone()

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought it was randomly adding Send and Sync traits to function signatures until rustc is happy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Randomly wrapping things in Arc::new()

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think that's the only thing I dislike about rust. Not having to use * to dereference but later having to use is tad confusing. I know it's still clever solution but in this case I prefer c++'s straightforward consistency.

Using ampersand never was problematic for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

C++ does have the problem that references are not objects, which introduces many subtle issues. For example, you cannot use a type like std::vector, so that templated code will often have to invoke std::remove_reference and so on. Rust opts for a more consistent data model, but then introduces auto-deref (and the Deref trait) to get about the same usability C++ has with references and operator->. Note that C++ will implicitly chain operator-> calls until a plain pointer is reached, whereas Rust will stop dereferencing once a type with a matching method/field is found. Having deep knowledge of both languages, I'm not convinced that C++ features "straightforward consistency" here…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So... now the rustc borrow checker is the new video game boss that is nearly impossible to beat for newcomers, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Replace that with golang and now we’re talking

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, popped in the comments to say the same.

I dont know what my damage is with pointers…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

honestly with Go in general I’m in a perpetual cycle of being annoyed with it and then immediately being amazed when I find some little trick for efficiency - with stringer interfaces and the like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was me in courses that used C. Keep adding and removing * and & until the IDE was happy and it usually worked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah the good old times with C, when things were much more simple (but unsafe...)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(void*) flashbacks intensify.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The "best" way to program dynamically typed...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna have to borrow this book

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too. I also want to make some changes to it at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Better apply for a mutable library card now before someone else does

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same for C, & yields a pointer to a value, and * allows you to access the data. (For rust people, a pointer is like a reference with looser type checking)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have pointers in Rust, too :) see documentation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I doubt many people have ever use that or any of the other low level memory API. The main appeal of rust is not having to do that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hahaha yes tfw Rust forces you to put your shit in a Rc>>

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New your program deadlocks instead of crashing, peak safety.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

EVERYBODY STOP. Nobody make a move or the memory dies. We have a Mexican Memory Standoff.