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[–] [email protected] 116 points 4 months ago

Removing the post button would increase the quality of twitter a lot, i think

[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Repost, like and reply are metrics that can be used to gauge how popular posts are, by removing that they can push whatever they want as “popular” with no real way of knowing. This is like Netflix Top 10 with no insight into the metrics.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is like Netflix Top 10 with no insight into the metrics.

I mean I don't think you need to see the metrics. They're the top 10 because they show you the same fucking content over and over and over again at the top of your "feed" or whatever. Even content you've already watched.

And I don't even understand why. What do they have to gain from this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's been changing for me lately. All of a sudden youtube is throwing me curve-balls and it's great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We were talking about Netflix...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. I canceled Netflix when they removed the star ratings because it was clear what they were doing. Most people didn't care, though.

Anyone still on shitter is not going to care. There is zero integrity on that platform at this point. Just people supporting hate speech and Musk by their very participation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I hard disagree with that actually, there are a lot of people on the platform that Karma dive and intentionally try to do post that will up their interaction. But if you remove those systems then they're not going to care about the platform anymore. Not that those people are adding good content to the platform in the first place but they will leave the platform to find other areas due to this change

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In general whatever anyone does to anything, current userbase will 90% of the time be against it. But

"Next, we'll remove all the action buttons with their superfluous interaction counts from the main timeline," Musk posted in a subscriber-only post on X in October of last year. "Just view count will show, unless you tap into a post."

So the main thing will be views. Not how many agree, how many object. Views
And probably it will also become the main analytic datapoint

Shit in, shit out

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So basically "we only want you to see what we decide you should see" since the views is decided by their own proprietary algorithm

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Yeah this change is certainly for Musk: "how can I make my tweets look the most popular, without people liking them?"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He should remove the "post" button while he's at it.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Do it. Make your platform even less relevant, Lonnie. Run that shit right into the ground.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it was the plan all along. Right before the US elections. The platform that had lots of media and open minded people on it, but that's all a thing of the past now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Ah. That was the reason? So bleak..

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Never used don't care really but:

users can also force touch a post in order to open a menu with more options.

Their terminology needs some work, force touching is not ok...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah wtf. Long tap is more clear anyway. Sounds like a Freudian slip

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

It's not like Musk is known to sexually harass his employees, or anything. /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

It’s in reference to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Touch

That said, it was discontinued in favor of Haptic Touch a while back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

The force will be with you, always

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Its rather touched, its emblematic of the entire effort

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This man is a genius!!!! /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, he's slowly bringing Twitter down, which fits with his description of Twitter before he bought it.

Seems like he's doing what he saw as needed doing - create space for other platforms to compete with Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Now it really feels like he wants twitter gone. Just experimenting dumb stuffs, idk for what really.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Twitter will be reintroduced as musk standing, naked and alone, on a street corner screaming gods' secrets while doing the hand jive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

how the hell are they going to judge engagement, like that's the number one thing most of their user base wants is the ability to feel special and popular

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A tweet's popularity will obviously be determined by how much money was paid to tweet it and however elongated musk woke up that morning.

Kind of already happening with the account validation checkmark thing for sale, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Very true, I was meaning more from a users standpoint, they spend money on the posts for people to see it, if everyone leaves they won't spend money on it, and what little advertisers they have left will bail or lower what they are willing to pay as well.

I really do think his end goal is just a full shutdown, but he wants to do it a little at a time because if he just nukes it, one he's out a lot of money

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Maybe when Musk is through with Twitter what will be left is Mastodon...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably realized he could cut server overhead by 40% this way

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Another round of layoffs incoming

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

To shreds, you say?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Obviously this would only apply to the app, right?

A lot of us would never install an app for the cancer social media apps

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure he's using Twitter as some sort of home project science experiment.

The amount of sheer hate and vitriol I was getting ramped up hugely in recent months - the algorithm is definitely promoting hate, despite my almost never replying/posting. Lots and lots of far right political content also, it really didn't feel random.

I bailed a couple of weeks ago.