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What cloud VPS host is the best for privacy and security? I want to self host stuff for myself some tools. Mental Outlaw make a video last year about self hosting your own VPN with a service called Vultr but back in December vultr added to their TOS that they own what you host and a bunch of other scary stuff. So I don't trust Vultr anymore. I don't see recommended vps hosts on privacyguides website. So what do you guys think I should use to self host various things like a VPN, Nextcloud, and so on.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can also get an old PC without a gpu and hook it up to a domain via dyndns or similar. Or just wireguard to it. You'd have higher upfront costs, but very small running costs, so it will be worth it at some point and you fully controll the data on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You need to trust your provider. If you choose a bigger one, chances are you are a bit safer. Those kind of providers make big bucks on companies, so if they harm the trust of their customers they are out of business. You could try to choose software which implements E2EE and zero-trust to be safer, but those are not available on all software categories. VPS providers have access to all your stuff. So it's all up to you which provider you trust. I would prefer a bigger name too some obscure little basement hoster.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

No one has mentioned Njalla. I haven’t used their server offerings, but they are probably the best for privacy.

https://njal.la/servers/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would recommend ADTAQ. They're a small anti-corpo provider from Gibraltar who built their whole business remotely in an ultra-cheap datacenter in Quincy, Washington. Very reliable, very affordable, but with their only datacenter in WA, you probably don't want this if you live too far away.

A little bit more expensive, but with a richer product line and by-the-hour pricing is RamNode, with very cheap offerings hosted around the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I think ADTAQ is exactly what I am looking for and $10 a tb is a very good deal. If they are the "Anti-Walmart" of VPS's then I am sold.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Run a home server and VPN to it through a VPS if needed, so they see nothing. E2EE everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Check out Njalla, Kyun, 1984 Hosting and OrangeWebsite. I think they all accept crypto payments (including Monero!) BitLaunch is a reseller for Linode and Vultr that allows you to pay with crypto, and hostingbydesign is a Hetzner reseller that doesn't require KYC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The best thing to do is not trust your vps. You can use different credentials than those you normally would, connect through a vpn to obscure your identity (questionably useful depending on how you paid) and use public/private key pairs where no private key material or certificates end up on your vps.

I’m not sure of a true “zero trust” method to secure a virtualized computer when someone else has lower level software access and physical control over the hardware it’s running on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Hetzner has a pretty decent privacy policy afaik.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I would look into aruba vps; i remember it being decent; but dont take my word for it.