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Roku looks to be seriously tightening its pursestrings. The company’s laying off a full ten percent of its workforce, over 300 employees, in addition to a conducting a number of other cost-cutting measures, as reported by Variety. These job cuts are just the beginning, as Roku’s also removing streaming content, consolidating office space and reducing outside service expenses. The goal here is a major reduction in the year-over-year operating expense growth rate.

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[–] [email protected] 181 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I know an even better way for them to save money. Anthony Wood, the CEO, gets like $20,990,000 in total yearly compensation. Like most these fucks most of it is non-salary, so they don't pay taxes on it right away if at all.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I fell down the internet rabbit hole. He gets 1.2M in pay. No bonus and no stock award. The rest are options. Last year he has sold 400,000 shares worth $69M. The year before he sold 1,950,000 shares worth $690M... Looks like he had a scheduled sale of 80,000 shares every 2 weeks. Which had been worth about $25M every time. It looks like he stopped it when the same sale started pulling in about $11M. So yeah, assuming a generous $500k fully loaded employee cost, they cut $150M in HC. So canning him would save about 40 jobs. And he'd still be a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think you touch on the real issue, and it's where the wealth of a company is created. The cashflow and operations is one thing, the investor money is entirely another. People in the company don't benefit from the investor capital nearly as much as the senior leadership does. The takeaway is how fundamentally broken the economy is right now as investment is wrecking how we do business. "Publicly traded" my ass. I get that companies need capital, and the VC money is one thing, but when we see shit like this it paints the picture of an established company getting enshittified to satisfy late game investors that act more like a parasite than anything else, and undermines the prosperity of business itself.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not late game investors, but short term investors.

I mean I guess it’s both, but short term investors don’t give a fuck about the fundamentals of a company, they care about growth, or at least the illusion of growth above all else.

So you end up with gigantic conglomerates that do everything. Piano makers that sell dirt bikes, movie companies that run theme parks, kettle makers that run the largest financial institutions in the world. It makes no logical sense, but that doesn’t matter…. Line goes up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Piano makers that sell dirt bikes, movie companies that run theme parks, kettle makers that run the largest financial institutions in the world

I know that’s Yamaha and Disney, but I’m blanking on the last one. I probably know it but don’t know about the kettle side.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Roku probably would be doing fine if they stuck with the cute little TV boxes and didn't have to keep making growth targets for the parasites. That drive for constant growth has made their core product suck more too...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having used Roku stuff recently, and helping family out with their new shiny Roku tv's, I couldn't agree more. You took the words right from me. They enshittified bigtime since the days people genuinely loved using their products.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

But we can't have that I guess. I fucking hate corporations so much.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn. I wish people who had nothing to live for would just camp outside these guys' mansions with an AR instead of attacking innocent crowds of people.

Our lives are worse because theirs are better.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you slice his compensation in half, that's about 100 employees he can pay at $100k for a full year.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So employees cost more than just their salaries (if they get things like benefits, 401K match, etc.) So you'd have to cut more than half of his total compensation, which I don't think either of us would be mad about

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I also doubt most of those employees made 100k either so it's probably still a good estimate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

[$10,000 monthly budget on candles.] Help my family is dying, someone help me please. ~ dril

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Torrents of The Weird Al movie are about to become quite popular.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Which is funny because he originally encouraged people in countries without Roku to do so.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

removes streaming content

What else do they do/have?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You'll still be able to stream stuff from normal apps. It's just the apps owned by Roku that will be affected, which, I don't know about you, but I've never used despite having three Rokus

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I actually have. I don't think roku had any content that was not available on other free stream services. It came down to how do you like you ad blocks.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A popular and powerful device for streaming other services. And direct integration in certain TVs as the "Smart" OS. Streaming was something they tried to build their offering and widen their reach when Google and Apple started getting decent streaming boxes themselves and TV manufacturers started having usable(while still bad) smart OSs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This market is getting saturated fast. Apple TV, Fire TV both pair directly to at least one first class streaming service as they are developed by the same company. Chromecast is still hanging on. Plex offers streaming content now as part of Plex pass. Cable tv boxes can now also do native streaming to select services. Major TV brands are dropping the Roku OS to roll their own shitty android port.

I personally moved to the Apple TV because it’s the only one probably not selling my data and isn’t constantly griping at me with some kind of upsell like the Roku and Fire Tv

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I setup a mini pc with Linux Mint to act as a streaming device that has worked great!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I bought a Roku TV when I moved. Used it a few weeks and then realized the level of horrific tracking my pi-hole server was blocking from it. (thanks PiHole) I reset it to factory and no longer allowed it on the network. Now it's an acceptable TV with a completely dogshit useless remote.

Sort of related- is it even possible to buy a "dumb" TV anymore or are we stuck paying 8x as much for "digital signage" panels now?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Spectre makes a dumb 4K TV. It's a good panel that doesn't track usage.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I shouldn't be this excited about the link, but double-checked the specs on their official site and it's not even equipped with ethernet/wifi- the world is so shitty these days that I almost squealed like a little girl. Thanks for sharing that.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They took a gamble and tried to play the streaming game - and lost

Did any of y'all Roku owners buy their device for the purpose of their streaming content? I know I didn't - I bought it because of the promise of an excellent UI to organize all of my other already-existing-and-too-many services in an easy streamlined interface even my dad could use.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My only real issue with Roku is the lack of a decent Ethernet port on them. 100mbit ports are too slow for 2023

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does feel like antiquated tech but what streaming service uses even 50+mbps streaming? The services I know of (apple, Netflix, Disney) all max out around 30mbps.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Self hosted (jellyfin, Plex) can use more.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Paid streaming and smart tvs were always a scam to try to get computer-functionality in a TV, but lock it down so you can only serve people garbage.

If you want to stream something, just stream it for free here: https://fmovies.to/

All you need is ublock origin. No credit card required. No signups.

But yeah, everyone jumps to say "x isn't on y, or z isn't on t" rather than just share how to watch it all for free.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or 123series.art and a good popup blocker.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a Roku TV.

I liked it at first because it's just a vehicle for using Netflix, Hulu, or streaming from a HDMI.

But in the past 6 months, more and more ads keep showing. Things I'm refusing to interact with. Tried blocking and then they circumvented that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not only that, but now all apps have to have remove any Screensaver that kept the screen active on that app. For instance, Plex now doesn't have a Screensaver so if you are listening to music and pause it too long, you lose all progress on that Playlist and it starts all over again. Big bummer that is making me question getting a new Roku later this year.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Looks like it’s time for me to sell my Roku stock that I bought during the pandemic when their price was constantly going up.

To be fair, it’s pretty telling that I have a TV with built in Roku, but I only use it to access my Apple TV which is faster and smoother.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I take this as a good sign that the data tracking market is growing stale. Like what value can tracking my viewing habits provide anyone, other than Roku, that the streaming platforms aren't already doing on their own? It's straight double dipping.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DVDs, people. DVDs and Blu-Rays.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blu-Rays generally are a bad idea. They're so concerned with piracy that they make things like ripping your Blu-Rays needlessly difficult, especially for recently released to video Blu-Rays.

Honestly it's easier to just pirate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meh.. it's not that hard. Get something that's libredrive compatible and run makemkv on it. Not had a failure yet.

The real downside is that blurays (esp. HD ones) are too expensive to get a decent collection.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They where only popular bc the other options where also crappy or very expensive. Also I highly doubt anyone bought a roku tv bc it was roku, it's more like they didnt have a choice.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I definitely did. It’s the best of the interfaces I’ve worked with. Samsung and LG both have abysmal built in OS’s and I do want an internet connected TV.

They’re privacy nightmares, but they work a whole lot better than the competition.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Fully agreed. It's the best of a bad situation, and their apps do run reasonably well compared to the absolute shitshow that is Samsung.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I read this in some other article, but it seems like the margins are slim for their hardware because while (IMHO) the interface is still best in a very poor class, almost everybody else does it more or less adequately, so they can't charge much of a premium. They've been making more money on their ad-supported streaming, both on-demand and their collection of all the free linear streams that you use to convince your rerun-loving gramma not make you climb into the attic to install an OTA antenna. The SAG and WGA strikes have done a number on how much advertisers are buying and at what prices. While I always wonder if there aren't other places to cut first (coughexecutivecompensationcough) I don't doubt that they're in a way worse place than they were a year ago.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The best streaming device is an old Linux PC with one of those Logitech touchpad keyboards.

The amount of ads on streaming sticks infuriates me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Good suggestion, particularly for folks around here, but it's not exactly the same product category as a consumer offering. :-)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The company’s laying off a full ten percent of its workforce, over 300 employees, in addition to a conducting a number of other cost-cutting measures, as reported by Variety.

These job cuts are just the beginning, as Roku’s also removing streaming content, consolidating office space and reducing outside service expenses.

The goal here is a major reduction in the year-over-year operating expense growth rate.

The company hasn’t announced which content it would be removing from its various streaming platforms and whether or not these cuts would be culled from third-party providers or from in-house projects like the recently-released Weird Al biopic.

Roku’s so serious about these cuts that it’s willing to pony up $65 million for impairment charges after deleting this content, according to an SEC filing.

However, even Roku admits these figures are uncertain, noting in a Q2 letter to shareholders that the “macro environment continued to create uncertainty,” given the ongoing WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I love the Roku remote and interface. But I have a Google TV and even though I'm sure it's sending my viewing habits to Google it's also basically and Android device so you can do many more things with it than a Roku. You can't install anything on a Roku that Roku doesn't specifically authorize.

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