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Riseup vpn is a free, donations based VPN, that doesn't require an account and has no logs policey. They doesn't have lots of serves like Protonvpn for example but they're running for years and support P2P, so if someone is too short for paying for a VPN, I think its a pretty good for some use cases.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems like a few people here have clearly never heard of Riseup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riseup

It's a volunteer and donation run anarchist collective that has been around since 1999. They have fought a number of legal battles against governments to varying degrees of success.

The people involved have close ties to basically everyone involved in Tor and should be regarded with the same level of trust (what ever that means for you). There's also a lot of overlap with some core Debian contributors.

That said, I wouldn't use them for P2P other than occasional use. Or if you do, consider making a substantial monthly donation. It's a lot of resources to pull from a small organisation at the expense of people who need their services for political organizing, which is their primary focus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Very nice and seems fast

In the next weeks I'll go in an authoritarian country so I can test if it works good

Seems trustworthy even if free, but if using for p2p it's a bit abusing them, maybe donate a bit via liberapay

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't trust "free" services.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Riseup is free because it is made by people who want the internet to be better. The same way tor is free.

But you should be donating if you find it useful. And I could nearly guarantee that a service that is used for censorship resistance that gets used for P2P will go from nice and fast to ungodly slow

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

If it's free, you're the product

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Technically you should be donating if you get value out of it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The catch is that free services like this are run for people who need them, not people who want to save money. In my opinion it is very scabby to use something like RiseUp for potentially data intensive tasks like torrenting if you can afford a paid VPN service. Leave it for those who genuinely need it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From Riseup: “Due to Thanksgiving and other deadlines, our lawyers were not available to advise us on what we can and cannot say,” the collective member told me. “So in the interest of adopting a precautionary principle, we couldn’t say anything. Now that we have talked to [counsel], we can clearly say that since our beginning, and as of this writing, riseup has not received a NSL, a FISA order/directive, or any other national security order/directive, foreign or domestic.”

Intercept article: "And yet, when I asked if riseup had received any request for user data since August 16, the collective did not comment. Clearly, something happened, but riseup isn’t able to talk about it publicly. The riseup collective is currently having internal discussions about when it will be able to update its warrant canary."