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How does Amazon/Audible know my country with VPN and private browsing on? (aussie.zone)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Title.

Trying to buy an audiobook with my US account from Australia. Am using a VPN and a fresh log in using a private browsing window. Still getting the “not for sale in this country…”

How does Amazon/Audible still know my country?!

EDIT: Thank you everyone for your suggestions, but I feel like we’re no closer to figuring out how Amazon is detecting my physical country. If they have some new “trick” surely this is a privacy issue as well?!

EDIT 2: Important details, this is on my iPhone using both the Amazon and Audible apps, and via the web with Safari (mentioned below). Doesn’t work.

I gave up and went to my desktop and was able to complete the purchase following the same steps without issue. So 🤷‍♂️ ?!

Clearly Amazon is scraping some information from the phone to region lock the purchase. Still would love to know given VPN isn’t masking my location apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

iOS up to at least version 16 has leaked VPN traffic for years. If you only turned on the VPN to make the purchase, that might be how Amazon still knew where you were. The only workaround (always-on VPN mode) apparently is an enterprise feature in iOS that most users don't have access to.

Alternatively, since it worked on a desktop, your VPN's mobile version or iOS support may be flawed. The ones I hear the most about from privacy advocates are Mullvad VPN, IVPN, and Proton VPN. If it's a free VPN, well, you get what you pay for. If it's one of the ones I mentioned, they might be interested to work with you to figure out how Amazon was bypassing them, if the issue can still be replicated, or they might already know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheers, thanks for the very helpful info.

We paid for Nord quite a while ago with some special deal. I haven’t heard great things about them since though so might be time to ditch and pay for something better. I’ve heard Proton is good as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Full disclosure, I don't use Nord so I am not an authority. The following is just what I have been told. Take from it what you will, and research what you like. I believe Nord has a somewhat checkered history, including a security mishap that caused privacy concerns amongst users, making it harder than necessary to delete your account, and even charging for renewal after canceling the sub because they kept the card on file (happened to a mate from work). They opted to leave Nord a while back when their split tunneling broke or something like that. I also heard Nord was purchased by a company (name escapes me atm) that was buying up other VPN services and also had their hands in selling targeted ads. 🤷

Proton or Mullvad are typically my 2 recommendations. If you also have a desire for an entire ecosystem, Proton will provide that as well for marginally more than the price of just their VPN (mail, cloud storage, calendar, password manager, email aliasing). I have also had nothing but good experiences with Mullvad VPN and they come at a consistent price of $5/mo.

Helped my coworker (mentioned above) make the leap from Nord to Mullvad and they seem very pleased with it. Easy to use and very affordable. Mullvad also has a very functional Linux client if interested. Proton's Linux GUI is very lackluster, but their CLI is reliable if I remember correctly.

Hope this helps! 🍻

Edits: spelling and links.