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[–] [email protected] 146 points 1 year ago (13 children)

As a Firefox user: Oh no, anyway

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh no, all those interest based ads I'm never gonna see.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Ads?

"Hi, I'm calling about your recent interest in furry related content. We at Furry Fetish inc recently mailed you a catalogue of our products... Oh...you haven't recieved it yet? Well, no worries. It was sent to 324 North Street..oh... You live on 325 North Street? No worries, your name is printed in large so whoever received it knows that is was for you and will probably deliver it to you..."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Interest based ads that everyone who has connected to the same wifi as you will now see. And it's not just interest based ads. They will use this to calculate your whole personality and manipulate you and others based on that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Interest based ads that everyone who has connected to the same wifi as you will now see.

My PiHole would beg to differ.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm happy to assist anyone on my wifi with installing an adblocker.

And unless google is using my data to hang a personalised billboard on my way to work, I'm not gonna be seeing any of them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Interest based ads that everyone who has connected to the same wifi as you will now see

Oh shit

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

Good thing I'm using Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

We have enhanced your privacy, pray we don’t enhance it more.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Google's new ad system is called Topics. If you want to understand how it works, I would like to point you to Security Now Ep 935 in which Steve Gibson gives a pretty thorough analysis.

Marcus' take in the image is overly simplistic and a bit FUD. The intention is for Topics to replace current ad tracking systems such as tracking pixels and other metrics. In conjunction with implementing Topics, Google is removing third-party cookies from Chrome, which will eliminate most of the current invasive tracking tools.

I'm not really a Google fanboy and I'll probably just stick with Firefox personally, but everything about Topics sounds less privacy invasive than the way things are done now. If Google can force this change on the internet advertising market it will actually be an improvement for user privacy.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's not overly simplistic. It's simply not a privacy feature if the core functionality is sharing your data. Privacy is if they stopped sharing data. Sharing more data is antithetical to privacy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The transparency of Topics is at least an improvement. Previously you would be targeted - or rather discriminated - by highly questionable traits.

Hopefully with this move regulators will finally step in to outlaw the previous behaviour. That would be a minimal step in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I doubt it. And I see no reason to believe Google is not going to continue that behavior, especially for those using a different browser.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So with Topics and the removal of 3rd party cookies Google can then have a monopoly on behavior based ad tracking since they also have 64% of the browsing market. This is also bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is absolutely the big problem. Google already has a near monopoly on internet advertising, with Facebook/Meta being their only real competitor. If Google has full control over the interest tracking/targeting technology and it's inescapable because it's part of the browser engine then they are effectively the gatekeepers of all internet advertising. Meta could still operate as an advertising agency but wouldn't be able to implement any of their own technology, they'd have to just use what Google allows them to.

Definitely bad, but is it worse than tracking pixels (which came out of Facebook Beacon)? From an end-user privacy sense, I think Topics might be better as it doesn't keep track of your specific web activity, only general interest categories for the websites that you visit within a period of three weeks - and the record is kept locally in your browser, not on a corporate server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not part of the browser engine. It's part of the browser "chrome" (part of its namesake), the thing around the browser engine. So this isn't in Edge and goes without saying, it isn't in Firefox etc.

It's still bad. Chrome is still a popular browser.

Edit: it does keep track of your browser activity, just doesn't share the whole bunch of data with their parties.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Other browsers have been blocking third-party cookies for quite a while, so I cannot imagine any ad network which doesn't already have alternative solutions in place and is therefore simply given more identifying data by this system. If Google genuinely wanted to change the ad model, they'd block tracking scripts by default.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Google Chrome? Privacy?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I mean...yeah? Is anyone surprised or shocked when Paramount Pictures releases a new movie? It's literally Google's whole business idea, they sell your data.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Title says "enhanced privacy" and text says they're handing out more data to websites...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Worst part, my adblocker is removed from Chrome, have to use a system wide adblocker now. Enjoy corporate world!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

simple solution: use Firefox

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ad/trackerblocker are inbuild in Vivaldi, customizable with own filterlists, even blocks Cookie Advices and Anti Adblock warnings in Desktop and Mobile. I can use Extensions from the Chrome Store, but no really need them, most extensions are redundant in Vivaldi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gorhill already has an MV3 version of ublock. Why is no one aware of this!?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhm WHAT would be "privacy enhancing" about that?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing, and they don't claim it is, they just use ambiguous wording.

"Enhanced ad privacy features". The ads are enhanced. Privacy is just involved.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

you see, they respect the fact that you are a poor slob and there is no point advertising BMWs, large TVs and individual pillows to you. So they are making you less miserable about all the stuff you cant afford which is somewhat nice to your privacy isnt it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

As part of a required test protocol, we will stop enhancing the truth in three... Two...~~zrzzt~~

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Because they know that wording it like:

"We use our monopoly advantage to push anti-consumer features nobody wants. Enable extra tracking for no reason? Yes/no"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

"Enhanced" like a growing tumor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Enhances their privacy, so you (user) would not know whats being sent out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Ungoogled-chromium. Chrome without google. Plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even more options and choices: https://chromium.woolyss.com/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a twitter image that says,

"For anyone unaware, Google Chrome is currently rolling out an update that tracks your interests based on browsing history, then share them with 3rd party websites. The notification page makes it sound like they added a new privacy feature, but in actuality they automatically enrolled you into their tracking system and you have to go and manually opt out."

There's a screenshot of a pop up from Chrome that says, "Enhanced ad privacy in Chrome" with some marketing spin on how you get more choice on the types of ads you see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what was it before it got redacted?

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