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This post is not related other previously published posts. But I want to know your opinions.

This debate does not focus on "which technology is better" or "which has better support", rather it focuses on which of these two technologies seems more acceptable in terms of privacy policy and user information management (on his respective toolchain, compiler, etc).

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even the programming languages have this kinda of problem nowdays?....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hm.... Is C/C++, dart or ruby safe? Why are they like this...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think C and C++ are safer options, because GNU doesn't use this technology in particular. But Dart are obviously using opt-out telemetry. You should disable it manually. Idk the case of Ruby, sorry :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Idk why they do this... dart(flutter) looks so good, that's really sad...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is the sad true. Nowdays, sdk haves tons of these analytics and telemetry. According to Dart documentation we can disable its analytics. And the first time the CLI is executed, this analysis is not used (respecting the opt-out concept). Is at your discretion trust Google's words (or investigate Dart's source code to find out if it is true or not, or if there are even other unethical means, although I find it a bit unlikely). If you wanna do the second, You can use something like CatFish to help you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You want a debate posting homepage links? At least take the time to post a brief summary of the main points concerning the issues for each language. At the very least the actual links where the information is located.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You're right. Maybe I should have put more information about it. The idea was perhaps to find out what information the Lemmy community could share. I would like to be as experienced as other community members, but I'm not very expert yet :(

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Both need a binary of themselfes compiled by some glowie at some point in time. Only if you build them from ground up or inspect the current compiler you can be sure. Otherwise stick to existing C compilers.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Otherwise stick to existing C compilers.

And what makes C not need a binary compiled by some glowie at some point in time?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The funny paradox lmao.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Rust can be bootstrapped with mrustc to my knowledge

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's true (also with other software that isn't for development). But this is not the only tool there. Just see crates.io and pkg.go.dev registries.

I think the only way to get "anonymously" some modules, libraries and frameworks is trough Tor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I don't think that was the question. I think you are responding to a question like "what if the go/rust compiler has a backdoor", but the actual question was which are better from a privacy perspective, and what that means in this context is whether they mine the user's data (the developer using it), or if they upload statistics of the user's system or the compiled program at all.