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Since not every car they sell is capable of it, I'm guessing this means to demo it for everyone who ordered it (or ordered a car capable of it, since the subscription can only be enabled on such cars).
The delivery process takes like a handful of minutes, and everyone who orders one still has to go through it, so if they're mandating a drive, I guess that roughly doubled the delivery process time.
Its very few cars that are not FSD capable, mostly older S and X. There are some older model 3's (pre spring 2019) with hardware version 2 that I think can't run modern FSD.
All the Model 3s with v2 were offered a free upgrade, I suppose there could be some people that never bothered and then sold their car, but if it's in Tesla's resale inventory I would expect them to have done the upgrade.
My 2018 Model 3 got the upgrade and I use FSD daily, though it still has the older revision of the display (just slightly less responsive in web browsing and games).
You only got the V2 to V3 upgrade if you bought FSD. I don't think they blanket upgraded everyone with V2 or V2.5 hardware.
Ah, that makes sense. Looking at the FAQ page, it appears anyone who pays for the non subscription FSD gets the upgrade free, subscribers have to pay $1,000 for installation.
Same page says there is a camera upgrade available for some s/x/early 3s also restricted to purchasers of FSD.
And that is fair. Otherwise someone could subscribe to FSD, get their hardware upgrade and then cancel. Early S and maybe X used a completely different system for Autopilot developed by MobileEye. Tesla hates paying licenses so they drop Mobile Eye and started developing their in house AP/FSD. The MobileEye patents are why it took for ever to get a system that can read speed limit signs. But Mobile Eye was never released on Model 3 so there must have been some different cameras in use. Hardware 4 has more cameras and higher def but I haven't heard that they are upgrading hardware 3 cars. The scale of that is way larger than it was back in 2019.
Ah, I wasn't aware that new ones came "FSD Capable" by default.
Its hard for them to sell you FSD at $12k (or $199/mo) if the hardware can't support it.