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Are we the baddies? (i.imgur.com)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

But they don't, so talking about those "what if"s are pointless. China's current interests — and, broadly speaking, those of capitalist Russia even after the USSR has been overthrown — are mostly in line with the Global South's against imperial core countries. There's a reason sentiment like this is common across the developing world.

Many of western countries' victims, like Cuba, DPRK, Burkina Faso, Palestine, etc., would not be able to function right now, or perhaps even exist, if they did not have China and Russia's support. Of course, alot of them like Libya aren't able to function anymore.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I wouldn't consider alot of those countries "functioning". They don't engage in the same actions because they aren't able to. Not for any moral reasons. China and Russia support those countries for extractive and political reasons.

Countries don't have allies because they like each other. Countries ally when it's beneficial to their interests.

Yes, the United States government has done/continues to do, many terrible things in the name of protecting economic interests. But to sit here and say russia and China some how have the moral high ground is unacceptable to me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Some information might change your point of view:

At the core of all of this is the US attempt to remain the world's hegemonic power, by augmenting military alliances around the world to contain or defeat China and Russia. It's a dangerous, delusional, and outmoded idea. The US has a mere 4.2% of the world population, and now a mere 16% of world GDP (measured at international prices). In fact, the combined GDP of the G7 is now less than that of the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa), while the G7 population is just 6 percent of the world compared with 41 percent in the BRICS. Source

I once thought that the US had made mistakes but generally was trying to do the right thing. But the more I read and learned history, the more damning it was towards America.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I once thought that the US had made mistakes but generally was trying to do the right thing

Thing is, there is no "trying" to do something on a national scale. What nations do — what they can do — and how they react entirely depends on their mode of production and material conditions. And that mode of production for the US is imperialist capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It really does explain so much history. Why were you and I able to see through the charade, and why do others have trouble? I was watching Jonas Ceika’s newest video essay on Urban Guerrillas and left wing terrorism, and it made me think about how left wing groups have trouble translating into mass movements. Something about the conditions being right; and how the conditions will never be right in America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

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