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Right, it produces derivative data. Not copyrighted material.
By itself without any safeguards, it absolutely could output copyrighted data, (albeit probably not perfectly but for copyright purposes that's irrelevant as long as it serves as a substitute). And any algorithms that do do that should be punished, but OpenAI's models can't do that.
Hammers aren't bad because they can be used for bludgeoning, and if we have a hammer that somehow detects that it's being used for murder and then evaporates, calling it bad is even more ridiculous.
Some safeguards have been added which curtail certain direct misbehavior, but it is still capable - by your own admission - of doing it. And it still profits from the unlicensed use of copyrighted works by using such material for its training data. Because what it is producing is not a new and unique creative work, it is a composite of copyrighted work. That is not the same thing.
And if you are comparing LLMs and hammers, you’re just proving how you fundamentally misunderstand what LLMs are and how they work. It’s a false equivalence.
And a regular hammer is capable of being used for murder. Which makes calling a hammer that evaporates before it can be used for murder "unethical" ridiculous. You're deliberately missing the point.
I just don't buy this reasoning. If I look at paintings of the Eiffel Tower and then sell my own painting of the building, I'm not violating the copyright of any of the original painters unless what I paint is so similar to one of theirs that it violates fair use.
It's stable diffusion, not a composite. But even if they were composites, I'm allowed to shred a magazine and make a composite image of something else. It's fair use until I use those pieces to create a copyrighted image.
Lol… I hope you didn’t sprain something with all those mental gymnastics. In the meantime, perhaps you should educate yourself a bit more on AI, LLV’s, and, perhaps, just a little bit on art.
Coming from someone who claimed stable diffusion was a composite image
OK, if you think what you just said made sense, then you either didn’t read the link you just posted or you clearly didn’t understand it. And you certainly have no clue what you’re talking about.
But you’re certainly helping to make my point for me
Find me a single sentence in that entire article that suggests AI art is composites of source data
You can't, because how it actually works is wildly different than how you want to believe it works.
The entire article explains that’s how it works. I’m sorry it’s just over your head.
Mhm, I'm sure that's why you couldn't find a single sentence about compositing images
You're either projecting or being dishonest
Correction: you do not comprehend what you are cherry-picking. Your ignorance and failure to understand to not make you right.
If it's cherry-picked it should be easy to give me a single sentence, but apparently you can't lol
I already gave it to you in a single sentence:
“You have no idea what you’re talking about.”
Even that was too difficult for you to understand.
"your evidence is cherry-picked but I refuse to provide any of my own, why aren't you just trusting me??" very convincing
You already provided the evidence in your link. It’s not my fault you don’t understand. Also, it’s not my job to educate you, nor to soothe your bruised ego.
I recommend some ice cream. Perhaps that will make you feel better.
And I provided evidence the article says something wildly different than what you want it to say, and all you have is "read it again until it says something else" lol
Also voting with two accounts is pathetic
No, you didn’t. All that you proved is that you didn’t understand what the link said. But that’s what I’ve been saying over and over.
The fact that you’re so insecure that you think that’s what’s happening is what is pathetic, and so is the fact that you’ve been crying about this for two days.
Just sad.
Stalking me across communities, I see.
Very sane and healthy
I didn’t harass you across communities, which is very much against the rules. And also psycho
Tu quoqe fallacy.
None of this excuses your behavior now
I admit that you misinterpret my response and have been throwing a psychotic, childish, name calling tantrum for hours, and you really need to take a break from the internet until you learn some self-control.
Tu quoque/whataboutism logical fallacy.
None of this excuses your behavior here and now