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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Yes, there is a difference. Having your own government spy on you is way worse because it has the monopoly on violence over you. No one protects you from that. But your government will (try to) protect you from foreign influences.

There is a reason for the outrage when PRISM came out of the closet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

because it has the monopoly on violence over you

I've been hearing this one going for a while, where does it come from? Sounds like a corpofascist slogan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Probably a bad translation from German. Maybe a better translation would be "force" instead of "violence". It means only the police is allowed to use force.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Still can't understand the point of it. Like, is the state ordering that civilians must be defenseless in the face of crime, for example? But yeah in general it just sounds like the usual "I am the Senate" fascist kind of takeover and control of power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It means pretty much that, I would say. The reasoning is that in the case of a conflict you have to solve it by involving police and advocacies ( I think this is the right word ). The senate is only involved in setting the ground rules for the conflict in front of a judge.

Of course, there is stuff like self defense (so one is not completely defenseless), but anything like revenge is heavily pursued.

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