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[–] [email protected] 87 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Wonder how many C-level execs get in trouble? /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this ends in beheadings, but there will (hopefully) be significant follow on effects. A threat to consumer confidence in flying is a risk to the entire industry, all Boeing's competitors and the airlines will be screaming for the FAA to get the actions right here...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

One would think so, but I haven't heard a peep out of them.

Weird.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Competitors... You mean Airbus, the EU sponsored counterpart to Boeing? And literally no one else?

There's almost no competition in the airliner space - both Boeing and Airbus are also state subsidised to a certain extent. Their mere existence is a strategic asset.

Either of them failing would have large global consequences... At worst, Boeing might no longer be able to hire their own FCC inspectors... At worst.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even the smaller competitors like Bombardier would have an interest in this, even if they are not the manufacturers of similar sized aircraft, a loss of faith in the aviation industry hurts everyone too. Plus suppliers etc.

As for the investigators (I know you meant FAA, not FCC), we have a similar issue in medical devices - you need seriously well educated experts to perform the investigations, and it is hard to find any without industry experience which wouldn't look good on paper. The solution is to try as hard as you can to not have ex-employees audit their ex-bosses, but it isn't always possible so we accept some overlap. It doesn't mean these people don't take their job seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Bombardier is 75% owned by Airbus now. There are hardly any competitors left, even small ones

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I ran the calculations, but I got a divide by zero error

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's funny I know someone who's an exec at Boeing Space, which is practically a completely different company and 99% a gov contractor. Let's just say the SLS hassss to work flawlessly because its got "Boeing" written all over its parts, luckily NASA is leading the project so it'll probably go as planned.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That has got to be a depressing job. I can't imagine the pain of being involved in starliner and SLS.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why you are getting down votes. Nobody wants SLS, even NASA. Congress is proping it up for pork

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because everyone assumes if you aren't a SLS booster you agree with every single thing Elon Musk has ever done or said.

I hate how there isn't a middle anymore. It is like the Middle East but for everything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Ah. Yeah musk is insane but his rockets are cheaper than the SLS will be. Hell Congress hasn't even funded more than 1 or 2 launches because it is so expensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well, they did already have a CEO resign over the 737-Max.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Yeh but that guy wasn't even in charge when that project was laid out and he got a massive golden parachute. Paid sacrafical lamb for PR purposes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

According to The Guardian he got $60M in stock and pension for being fired. Also it seems that stock price didn't fall much after the crashes and the grounding. It is only after COVID hit that Boeing's price plummeted. So it might be only by pure luck that he lost anything of value at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

About 300 years at the salary of a doctor. I am sure he contributed as much to human happiness and well-being as 300 doctors working for a single year.