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I decided to have a green tea because it's healthier than soda. It's healthier, right?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10389239/

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[–] [email protected] 196 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The first time I saw a bag like that, I was shocked as well. Seems like just the worst idea to use plastic to create tea bags. Turns out it is and they weren't made out of plastic. It's a starch based fiber that is biodegradable. I don't think you could have plastic tea bags here in the EU in any case. I'd wager yours isn't plastic either. Yeah, so you probably got mildly infuriated over nothing, just like I did the first time I saw one of these 🀷

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/limwsUnH4iQ?feature=shared

Regular teabags are sometimes made using non-biodegradable plastic - be sure to buy those made with this starch based plastic. When I first saw biodegradable teabags I was surprised, I thought teabags were made of paper. Not so, it turns out.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

that was interesting, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

there's still a decent chance it's only industrially biodegradable: at higher temperatures and pressures than a good ol' home compost pile normally ever gets near. It could still be a bit infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

It's dope having municipal compost pickup, guys.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

This is almost always the case. If it's biodegradable at room temperature and pressure, it'll be degrading once you get it.

We're probably best off converting most of our things into industrially biodegradable products, and then having our waste go to composting plants instead of landfills.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't really find a source for it, but I remember the EU banning plastic in tea bags quite recently, a few years ago at most. Here in the Netherlands, a lot of tea bags contain(ed) plastic as some kind of sealant.

Also, a lot of tea contains sugar, for no good reason whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Also, a lot of tea contains sugar

In the form of fruit or added? If it's the latter, they will have messed up something as simple as tea even further. When they started packaging them in airtight plastic (preventing one from smelling what you are considering to buy) and wrap every single tea bag in plastic, I already got mad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Added sugar, that is. A lot of tea bags contain 'aroma', according to the ingredient list. However, this 'aroma' can be 60-70% sugar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It should be clearly labeled then. Also in the nutritional information it should be clearly stated (pure tea is 0% carbs, 0% sugar).

I don't think you can hide your sugar as "aroma"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Tic Tacs say 0g sugar in the nutrition facts, even though they're mostly sugar. They can do this because they aren't required to report quantities of sugar below 0.5g, but the serving size is 1 tic tac or, conveniently, 0.49g.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a US thing I think, which doesn't make sense btw.

In Europe you are required to report the nutrition facts per 100g. Any other size is optional. In Italy Tic-Tacs have 94.5g of sugar per 100g of product https://www.ferrero.it/Tic-Tac#expand-jump-1

So if you are unsure about the nutrition facts, check the European website

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I agree that it's nonsense, and thanks for pointing out that I can look up European nutrition facts -- i'm gonna start doing that. I wish we'd do the per 100g thing, but we don't which makes it easier for companies to game the system. My point was that nutrition facts don't always tell the whole story, especially if your country's regulatory bodies have been lobbied into submission by the companies they are supposed to be regulating, so finding out if your tea has added sugars may not be as simple as looking on the box.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Similarly, β€œzero calorie” sweetener packets are 4.9 calories each. Because calories are rounded to the nearest 10.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You definitely shouldn't be allowed to hide it like that, no. Unfortunately, they can (Dutch source).

The nutritional information does however state that there's sugar. Even though the ingredient list does not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I’m glad they stopped using metal staples on them too. That always bugged me.