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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/10062367

Apple Terminated Epic’s Developer Account

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Sucks to be an iOS developer. Apple will never give up it's 30% of your money. EVER.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (23 children)

And the flat $100 fee, which disproportionately iffects small devs

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I took an app development course in college. Everything was android and I tested on my own device, except one project had to be on apple. I managed to snag an ancient iPhone off a friend to test, but no, turns out you need a dev account to even be able to load your own code on your phone. Fuck apple forever.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Dev accounts are free. It’s only when you want to post stuff to the store that you start paying.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (12 children)

You mean when you want to make it available to download in the only way Apple makes possible? It's not like you can just send the apk to someone to run on their iPhone, if you want to share the app with others on an iPhone, you have to use the Apple App Store, you have to pay them $100 + the cost of an Apple computer. Just to share your FOSS app with your friends.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

on iOS its called ipa

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did this change? It was about a decade ago. I could develop and test on an emulated device, but testing on hardware was 100% locked behind a $100 paywall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I could be reading this wrong, but it looks like TestFlight allows you to distribute internally without going through the App Store.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/distributing-your-app-for-beta-testing-and-releases

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It mentions the apple developer program which is what I assume the 100 dollar subscription is. I keep seeing people say dev accounts are free but any tools beyond the dev environment are paywalled.

I wasn't even talking about app stores; I never published anything to Google play, just loaded through usb from android studio. The apple program didn't allow even that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Before TestFlight was a thing, you could self-sign your own apps (.ipa) and install them to local devices through iTunes over a USB cable connected to the device. The developer signing certificate for this was/is free, included when you sign up for the free version of Apple Developer account.

Nowadays it looks like you can still do this directly from Xcode. See section: “Connect real devices to your Mac”

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/running-your-app-in-simulator-or-on-a-device

*The mention of Apple Developer Program in the bullet points of this section is an “if” and is optional. It’s not required for testing apps on local devices.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everything disproportionately effects the little guy. Just look at laws that have fines instead of jail time. Or just getting a lawyer. Or eating out or buying groceries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Are you claiming those are good?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Every other store charges 30% including Steam, PlayStation, Xbox, Google Play, etc. Epic doesn’t and they aren’t profitable, so I don’t know why people pile on Apple.

Edit: the downvotes are funny. Why? You don’t like someone pointing out the truth?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

At least with Google Play and Steam you are not locked into it due to your device of choice.

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