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Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’ (www.vice.com)

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Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’::The New Zealand-based seller issued a notice to its Australian customers that shipments will continue regardless of the government's vape reform.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. The choice is vaping or smoking, and the current movement is going to push me back to cigarettes. I'd rather vape, and I was well on my way to being able to consider myself quit when the restrictions on obtaining nicotine came into effect.

Yes there may be risks with vaping, I'm all for properly done scientific method, not funded by the ciggy lobby and would volunteer in a heart beat, because in my anecdotal experience I was getting sick far less than when I was smoking.

They definitely shouldn't be in the hands of kids, and the disposables are absolutely a problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They definitely shouldn't be in the hands of kids, and the disposables are absolutely a problem.

True, we should eliminate all disposables but especially disposable versions of electronic devices, such as for example vapes, which is even more wasteful and harmful to the environment.

As for kids getting them, that's already illegal everywhere. What's needed is better enforcement, not making it harder for adults to quit smoking, as I'm sure you agree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Single use anything! Rawr etc. (I'm a nut who has carried my own water bottle, cutlery and straws for twenty+ years.)

Kids will get their hands on vapes, the same as alcohol, smokes, and so on down the list.

I'd be content with with restrictions that match cigarettes. I am not happy that access is being blocked over a bunch of whataboutisms.

sigh Same song, new lyrics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kids will get their hands on vapes, the same as alcohol, smokes, and so on down the list.

But nobody's talking about making alcohol or cigarettes prescription only.

I'd be content with with restrictions that match cigarettes.

I wouldn't. I think that keeping vapes away from children should be better enforced, but non-disposable vapes should be freely available for adults trying to quit smoking.

And, although I'm generally adamantly opposed to prohibition as a solution, I think tobacco should be completely banned.

Unlike all the drugs that ARE banned or tightly restricted, tobacco has no therapeutic or recreational benefits. There's no upside and it's the number one lifestyle cause of death in the world.

I am not happy that access is being blocked over a bunch of whataboutisms.

sigh Same song, new lyrics

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