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For many people they actually represent a better experience. If you mostly use the car below the range of the battery in your local area and can charge at home then you mostly eliminate the need to travel to fill up stations. Its kind of nice to not have to put petrol into the vehicle every week and have to deal with it being near empty and being forced to refill. It just gets charged cheaply overnight on greener power.
The modern EVs get a lot of range in a 15-30 minute charge too. The reality is a 250 mile EV requires one stop to drive for 8-10 hours. Most people aren't going to do that without a break in the middle. Even if you were going to go non-stop compared to an ICE its only another 30 minutes of journey time extra and it will cost you less to do it. So long as there are enough charge points, and these days their typically are in a lot of countries, then its not really a massive problem.
In many ways they are more convenient on most peoples average usage and the range anxiety goes away when you realise what we are really talking about in terms of long journeys and how long charging in practice will add.
Dude you've got the numbers completely wrong. I drive a "modern ev with a 250mile range" and in reality I will stop after 2-3 hours when doing long trips in the winter.
Manufacturer stated EV range is a joke. 5-6 hours of driving at best with one stop, not 8-10 lol.
Yes, those official (bullshit) ranges are not for highway speeds nor winter weather.
I live in Germany, but drive 1000+ kms to my hometown in Eastern Europe around Christmas (and often Easter and summer), going 160-180 kmph where allowed. I would have to stop to charge around every 2 hrs, spend time waiting for (fast) charging, and have a tortured battery after a few trips. As we have a dog, flying is not possible, so we do have to drive.
So even if an EV fits 90% of my driving days, due to this 10% I need an ICE car. I’m not happy about it, as I like driving EVs, and could charge at my work for free. I could of course also get 2 cars, one small EV for city driving during the year, and an ICE for the long trips, but that’s just too much money.
I also checked PHEV, but that version of my car would have a 20 liter smaller tank, 100+ liter smaller trunk, and more weight - so not really an option for the long trips.
One interesting option for EVs is are the battery swap stations for NIO, now all over Germany - you lease your battery, and can swap it instead of charging at stations, takes 5 minutes.
I've got a dog and those charging stops every two hours are exactly the right distance to walk him a few meters. If I have to stop anyway the car might as well charge.
What if you just got like 6 large dogs, and instead of keeping them in the car, you kept them on the outside attached to the car. If the dogs need to walk, why not just walk the car? Then you don't need electricity or gas.
Could you not just rent a car for those 2-3 times a year you need an ICE? Seems like it'd still be cheaper. Especially with free charging at work.
Fun fact: it appears that was part of Tesla's plan too, originally -- an automated swap bay that would swap your battery as easily as an american-style pull-through car wash.
You sound like someone which understands the problem. Also I would argue driving is still significantly less emitting than the commercial jet so please remember that when you do the trip next time. ICE car is the correct mode of transport for 1000km trip with a dog, the good boy is probably happier too