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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As of 2024, Google is now quietly blocking RCS messages on unlocked/rooted android devices. Even if your device only has an unlocked bootloader, it is now at risk of being quietly shadowbanned from sending RCS text messages.

According to the OP that opened the issue with Google, it doesn't work with devices with unlocked bootloaders so it would affect the majority of custom ROM users since very few custom ROMs and devices support relocking the bootloader, and I think it probably would still affect these devices too since the last time I relocked a bootloader with DivestOS I still had the error message about system integrity on boot

Rooted users can probably bypass this issue with some Magisk modules the same way they do with GPay and banking apps.

If Google really does want to push RCS then disabling access to the more technically inclined users now seems a bit silly.

I thought they'd at least wait for wider adoption before locking it down like they're doing with YouTube and ad blockers, especially with imessage and WhatsApp being such big competitors. At least in Europe, I don't see anyone dropping WhatsApp for RCS anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Rooted users can probably bypass this issue with some Magisk modules the same way they do with GPay and banking apps.

That doesn't work anymore due to hardware attestation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Works fine for me, banking and gpay

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah this will cause issues because many device that allows relocking bootloader can only do it once, which lock out future rom upgrades.

What prompt google to do this? Do they have bots problem abusing the service?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been degoogled since 2019 so I have never actually used RCS so I'm not 100% sure.

If I were to guess I would assume it has something to do with Apples support for RCS. The last time I checked, Apple won't support end-to-end encryption in RCS and the messages are only encrypted in transit so maybe Android users that will use RCS with Apple users will have all of the chats saved unencrypted within the system folders and that would be no bueno for Google

But I'm honestly not sure, I have no interest in learning about RCS unless GSMA helps open source apps integrate it so I'm not stuck with either Samsungs or Googles messaging apps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I have no interest in learning about RCS

I never will. It's too little, too late.

20 years ago it would've been a god replacement for SMS. Today? I only use SMS with people who refuse to switch to any modern messenger. I was using XMPP on my phone 20 years ago...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can only relock once? Since when?

Or do you mean relock once with current OS? Yea, unlocking requires a reset, as a security mechanism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

iirc many chinese phones can only be unlocked using the stock rom, so if you lock it while using a custom rom, you better not planning to unlock it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

For practical purposes its capturing revenue from OEMs and users. Android being open source if they didn't completely sabotage an actual open source market they could well find OEMs or third parties capturing those dollars or indeed those unearned dollars evaporating in a competitive market. Think the IBM PC and Microsoft.