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Google apologizes for ‘missing the mark’ after Gemini generated racially diverse Nazis
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I'm all for letting people of all backgrounds having an equal work/representation opportunity but this ai went too far.
What I am against is taking official / past figures such as u.s presidents and race swapping them. These are real people who were white. Sorry if it offends someone but that's just how it was.
At this point we are putting dei even over who use to govern the u.s as offical presidents? Why? Who does this help? If anything you make people with legit purposes hate dei more by doing this. Imagine if they did that to president Obama people would be sticking it to Google 10 times harder then they are now.
How do you feel about Hamilton?
I can't speak much about my opinion on a person, as it might a be off topic of the original post and b start controversy for either side of politics.
Sure some people can be controversal, but to have something like gemini and to seemingly go out of their way to just not generate a persons appearance traits accurately. Not the most proffesional look.
Although, if a user were to ask for a raceswap of a historical president I would be ok with that if that's something they inputed that they wanted.
So what you're saying is that a white actor should always be cast to play any character that was originally white whether they are the best actor or not?
Keep in mind historical figures are largely white because of systemic racism and in your scenario the film and television industry would have to purposefully double down on the discrimination that empowered those people to meet your requirements.
I'm not defending Google's ham fisted approach. But at the same time it's a great reinforcement of the reality that Large Language Models cannot and should not be relied upon for accurate information. LLMs are just as ham fisted for accurate information as Google's approach to diversity in LLMs.
Let me answer your first question by reversing it back at you If Barack Obama was historocally black should a black person be able to play as him. I believe so. This should be the same for all real life historical figures. If you want more diversity create new characters to fill the void. If the new characters are good people will love them.
In film industry I feel that may be different since a made up story generally in alot of these shows and movies. So if they changed something it isn't the biggest deal to me because it wasn't meant to be taken seriosly rather meant for entertainment.
My argument was actually for real life historical figures to be represented more properly because this isn't just about diversity in jobs and entertainment anymore, your changing real life history regarding governments, militaries and presidents and etc. And this wasn't done just to u.s figures by Gemini.
I do agree ai can make mistakes and isn't perfect. Shouldn't be used as real life context all the time but from Google sometimes you just expect better.
Someone who is half white would have to play him right? So you'd have to exclude any truly dark skinned black people for the role. You know, because the American public would have never put someone dark skinned into the presidency.
I disagree with that, because Barack was actually black so he should be depicted as such despite how people feel because that is how his appearence was.
But you see where this gets dicey right?
It's also different when someone's race is central to their story.
Yes.