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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (8 children)

You're saying "in addition to using it as a currency" as if that's actually what people do with crypto. They don't.

And yeah, it is a problem. It renders it useless outside of as a bit of gambling on the side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Alright, so let's call them cryptotokens instead. I've always preferred that myself, it's a much more general description of what they do. It doesn't change what they are but if that term makes you happier we can go with that.

It renders it useless outside of as a bit of gambling on the side.

Hardly, there are lots of things you can do with these things. A ledger is more than just for tracking money, it's a database. You really can't think of useful things that could be done with a completely decentralized and permissionless database?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

People don't use bitcoin or other cryptocoins as a general purpose database. They use it as they'd use a stock.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bitcoin, no, because it's a hopelessly out of date blockchain that actively resists having new capabilities added to it. Ethereum, on the other hand, is designed that way from the ground up. Many of the other smaller but more modern blockchains are also like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And yet they're still used like a stock and you can't really use them as a currency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can't use them as a currency everywhere. But the same can be said for any other currency too. You can't use US dollars everywhere. You can't use Chinese Yuan everywhere. And so forth. A currency doesn't have to be universally accepted everywhere on the planet for every application before it's useful.

Regardless, I was talking about using Ethereum as a distributed database.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know fine well that's not what I meant.

If you were to attempt to only use Bitcoin, Ethereim, whatever, you almost certainly literally wouldn't be able to live.

You can't just pay all your bills with it.

And even the people who own it almost never use it as a currency. They treat it like a stock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really don't see your point here. I'm agreeing that you can't use it for everything. But what's wrong with that? There are plenty of things in this world that aren't useful in every circumstance and yet that doesn't mean those things are worthless. Use them for the things that they're good for. Elsewhere in this thread I listed off a whole bunch of non-stock, non-currency applications that have been built on blockchains if you really don't like the monetary applications.

As a side note, though, I'm kind of amused and baffled that the Grand Nagus of all people is dismissing any monetary uses for cryptocurrency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You make it sound like it's not used for absolutely everything, but it's used for a lot.

And it just... isn't. It's almost entirely unused as a currency.

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