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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Yes, I'm in no danger of being fired it doesn't seem. I've been there 6 years and have an enormous amount of knowledge of our product and operations. And it was just a 'verbal counseling' (which is written down, sent to HR, and added to your record; totally verbal though). So I'll just keep on project managing timelines and crap, and collecting my Pacheck. But now I have like 8 months of successful product management under my belt to add to the resume

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I thought the same thing at 5 years, and everyone I heard from said it was a mistake to lay me off. Last I heard, my responsibilities were being split up between 3 people. On top of that I found out I was getting underpaid, so I was a good deal on top of that :p

Anyway despite all that, I still wasn't part of whatever vision upper management had going forward, so they gave me a sweet severance and sent me on my way. I'm not mad, but it's definitely made me careful not to expect my job to be safe.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Last time I was laid off it started with "we need to really nail down the docs for these systems".

No one ever gives you extra time for documentation.

Like you, my responsibilities were split between 2 or 3 people.

I'll never again do documentation that well. Fuck 'em. That's not true - I will, for myself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Those are really stupid managers.

If you don't have docs it's a tough competition between having your more knowledgeable devs re-explaining what they know X times to X new hires, or letting new devs figure it out on their own which is both costly in terms of their time and more importantly, risky as hell.

Bad managers love risk though. Since it usually is a choice between speed now and risk later, it only blows up in your face later, and quite spectacularly, and everyone looks like heroes while they are putting fires out on overtime.

That said good managers probably don't tolerate that shit from bad managers under them and can sniff out a firefighter culture pretty quick.

I guess what I meant to say was, managers that value doc do exist. If they really do, they'll let you know.

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