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Sudo is coming to Windows 11 (devblogs.microsoft.com)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052 to the Canary and Dev Channels.

Insiders in the Canary Channel will receive Build 26052.1000 while Insiders in the Dev Channel will receive Build

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[+] [email protected] -18 points 9 months ago (15 children)

Embrace, extend, extinguish. Fucking microcrap

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (14 children)

...what?

I'm always aboard the Microsoft hate train, but I don't see how them adding sudo fits within EEE. Here's an excerpt from microsoft/sudo on Github:

Obviously, everything about permissions and the command line experience is different between Windows and Linux. This project is not a fork of the Linux sudo project, nor is it a port of the Linux sudo project. Instead, Sudo for Windows is a Windows-specific implementation of the sudo concept.

As the two are entirely different applications, you'll find that certain elements of the Linux sudo experience are not present in Sudo for Windows, and vice versa.

Despite sharing a name and features, they're for two completely separate platforms and offer no interoperability. If MS decided to release their version of sudo for Linux, maybe we could talk about EEE. For now, all they've done is implement a useful tool from another platform into theirs, and that's a (rare) positive for MS, even if this feature should have existed like 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Linux subsystem for windows... Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

It's 100% per of EEE, subtle as not to make users like you freak out.
MS won't do anything that doesn't help them make more money / more users

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Linux subsystem for windows

If you wanted to talk about EEE regarding Linux subsystem for Windows, you probably should specify that. I share your misgivings about WSL, but this thread is about sudo for Windows which is another thing entirely.

Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

I have a hard time imagining Linux users switching to Windows because of a feature Linux has had since its inception. Of course MS won't do anything that doesn't increase their profits, that's what corporations do. Implementing "new" features is a way of attracting more users, sure, but I still fail to see any way in which sudo for Windows fits the EEE scheme. "Embrace, extend, extinguish" refers to specific predatory business practices, it's not shorthand for "everything I dislike about capitalism and the tech industry" and using it as such kinda dilutes its original meaning.