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Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu...::Parisians have voted to increase parking charges for out-of-town SUV drivers as part of the city’s efforts to address road safety, air pollution, and climate change.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So if I rent a 9 pax van and bring 8 friends to Paris, it will cost more money than if we all took separate smaller vehicles?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Article says they are tripling the cost, and 9 is more than 3, so...no.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Okay let’s do some more math. Let’s say we take three separate smaller cars. Parking price evens out if the cost for one larger vehicle is triple. But now you have three vehicles bringing in pollution instead of a large one that only takes 20% more than a smaller one. And those three vehicles take up more parking spaces and create more traffic on the roads, which would go against their stated claim of making the roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

I think it is a given that you can create scenarios for every law that make the law look stupid.

I doubt that the amount of 9 seater cars with enough people inside is actually significant to recalculate the law.

The decision by weight is most likely done as this is a value which can be easily evaluated.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

That's a fringe scenario. Try imagining something that would happen on a more daily basis.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

If you're looking to rent for the day, you would never pick 3 cars over 1. And if you already own the 3 cars, you wouldn't go out of your way to rent another one. I don't see how a parking charge would change this, unless it was far heavier than this proposal is.

Additionally, think about how many full 9-seat vans there are in Paris. Think about how many single-occupant SUVs there are. I think the benefit here is pretty clear.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just be careful that those cars are not too heavy. Since this law says 1.6t , a Toyota Camry qualifies as an SUV

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not a lot of Camrys in Europe, but I get your point. I think this law needs some revisions. Charging based on how many empty seats are in your vehicle upon entry and exit of the city, may be a better way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

But who checks that?