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People keep talking about "Federalizing the National Guard" and now you've got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I'm a Brit

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Serious question. Couldn't Texas just hold a referendum to scede?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Abraham Lincoln thought they could not. In his inaugural address, he opined that the union was formed for perpetuity and that if the accession of a state to the union required the consent of all other states, so would its secession. He was, among other things, a lawyer so he usually knew what he was talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

Serious question. Couldn’t Texas just hold a referendum to scede?

Abraham Lincoln thought they could not.

I have a vague memory of Texas having a unique status, versus the other States, when it comes to succeeding from the Union.

That there is some kind of (state?) constitutional clause that would actually allow them to succeed if they wanted to.

Has something to do with the fact that they were their own country for a very small period of time, before joining the Union.

Can't remember any details though, was something I read a long time ago; apologies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So far as I understand, there is a common idea that Texas has the legal ability to leave it it wants, but it's just a popular myth as far as I'm aware. Whatever their state constitution says doesn't matter anyway, because federal law trumps state laws and as far as I'm know there's not a legal mechanism for states to leave again, it'd have to either get the government as a whole to make legal or possibly even constitutional changes to allow it, or leave illegally, either by force or by having a sympathetic government just not press the matter and just ignore the laws in question. I can't really see them getting enough support for the former two, they're too weak compared to the federal government for an actual war, and the current administration is not likely to just let them go, so I don't expect them to go anywhere unless one of those things drastically changes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Inb4 president 47 Trump let's them succeed for shits and giggles

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