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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (14 children)

You have support for Trump and Russia in there, which is an unholy alliance stripping LGBTQ protections in law, funding transphobic and Neo-Naxi groups, and spreading fascist rhetoric online.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

"support for Russia" — opposition to NATO is not support for Russia. This isn't a fucking football game.

"support for Trump" — The other day I sent you a huge thread where they all fucking hate Trump and agree he is an odious fascist.

Hexbear does not support Trump. The consensus view on hexbear is that Trump is more dangerous domestically, but Biden is more dangerous internationally, and they are both monstrous people who are terrible for the planet. Many hexbears voted for biden as harm reduction but it barely felt like harm reduction, and when you look at the whole planet, maybe it wasn't. Trump is a fascist but also an isolationist. Biden is not a fascist, although he does virtually nothing to combat the fascists, but he is also more likely to start wars, coups, or inflict austerity on the global south, which is something people should care about. 9 million people starve to death every fucking year and America has huge international influence to make that worse or better. America supported the fucking siege in Yemen. America destroyed Libya — and that was the fucking Obama administration. I saw a study that tallied it all up and concluded that America has caused the deaths of 4.5 million people in the middle east since 9/11. And for that matter, Biden's not great domestically either! There's been virtually no pushback from the Biden administration against any of the fascist bullshit happening in this country. Florida legalized kidnapping children for forced conversion therapy and Biden won't even say the word trans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

support for Trump" — The other day I sent you a huge thread where they all fucking hate Trump and agree he is an odious fascist.

Lol, not really. We can dig it up and look at the highest rated posts again. Hexbear wants to execute him along with the rest of the US presidents, which is obviously just a fantasy. "All presidents are bad, both sides are the same, Trump is at least funny and kind of authentic and triggers the libs" was the overwhelming sentiment.

Trump is a fascist but also an isolationist.

Lol, no, he's not an isolationist. He's a globalist business man, and a wanna-be dictator imperialist, who is happy to be friends and allies with the other dictator imperialists of the world.

(Biden) is more likely to start wars

What? According to who? Are you just going to pretend the assassination of Qasem Soleimani didn't happen under Trump?

Biden is very pro-Ukraine, which drives the pro-Russia people insane. I don't know what else you could be talking about.

There's been virtually no pushback from the Biden administration against any of the fascist bullshit happening in this country.

Trump rolled back LGBTQ rights and stacked SCOTUS with people to roll back women's and LGBTQ rights, DeSantis leads the war on Trans people. It does NOT help LGBTQ causes to blame this on Biden. It does not help to say "well both sides are bad". Fascists LOVE the "enlightened centrists" because it almost always benefits fascism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hexbear wants to execute him

Please explain how wanting to see trump hung drawn and quartered for being a disgusting imperialist fascist is a pro Trump statement. Frankly if hexbear users could bring him back to live afterwards we'd happily want to see him brought back then hung, drawn and quartered a second time.

If you don't want to see Trump hung, drawn and quartered you are more pro trump than hexbear is.

But also, "Identiy politics is so silly" is a massive fucking red flag, scratch a liberal and they start complaining about the woke mob

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lmao, this you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't want to see Trump hung, drawn and quartered you are more pro trump than hexbear is

I care about real life policy and results.

I don't think living in a fantasy of fetish violence makes you left or a left ally.

"Identiy politics is so silly"

Let me frame it in a way helpful to your confirmation bias. Zelenskyy is Jewish, does this automatically mean in the Russia invasion of Ukraine that Russians are the Nazis and Ukrainians aren't? Identity politics.

lmao, this you?

100% yes, and I have learned that thinking neopronouns are unnecessary and silly makes me a transphobe, and transphobes deserve the firing squad.

I have not heard exactly how many and which neopronouns I have to learn before I've hexbeared hard enough to not get the firing squad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a big difference between wanting trump to die and thinking that trump will actually be executed or suffer any real consequences for his crimes beyond a slap on the wrist and maybe some house arrest - of course Trump won't face justice, like Bush, like Clinton, like Obama and like Biden he will only ever fall upwards and live comfortably for the rest of his life. Wanting awful people to face justice isn't "living in fantasy land" it's just being dissaffected with the reality that evil people will never face any kind of justice - I also want my country to be actually accepting of trans people and for the NHS to work as it should and for the police to not be institutionally racist, but I know it's not going to happen.

And regarding the identity politics thing, I agree regarding liberal identity politics when Im talking with a materialist communist who's criticising it from a left wing perspective but you're not a communist, you're a """liberal""" criticising it from a right wing perspective because you're mad that trans people are daring to criticise Biden and to call you a transphobe for being transphobic.
If your "allyship" that is entirely conditional on trans people being respectable and heteronormative enough for you to accept entirely consists of talking down to those trans people you do accept and telling them that they're not allowed to criticise Biden too much or your fragile "allyship" will be retracted then it isn't worth shit.

::: spoiler relevant MLK quote

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

  • Martin Luther King, Letter from a Birmingham Jail
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to admit I think it's weird that afab men and amab women or any nonbinary thems are now considered heteronormative.

Set the firing squad on me because I say that's stupid.

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