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Obviously, supporting a New York real estate billionaire is anti-establishment for some reason
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“Stealing I can accept, but having an opinion that’s different from my own is where I draw the line.”
Questioning the validity of science is precisely how science is done. You form a hypothesis and design an experiment to either prove or disprove it. Reading papers and just believing everything they say, taking for granted that the people who wrote them carried out the experiment(s) exactly as described, didn't fudge any numbers, and declared all their conflicts of interest and sources of funding accurately and unbiased, isn't.
Making your own discussion platform because you don't like the other ones that are available is no worse of an offense than going to a different room. Lemmy literally IS such a place that was created because people didn't like what was happening on reddit. Basically, what you're saying is that YOU deserve a safe space because your opinions are valid and correct, and other people don't because theirs are wrong. I don't know, man... sounds kinda fascist if you ask me.
Scientists do not question the concept of science. They challenge results of tests by performing new ones to replicate the proposed results.
I think maybe you need to retake some high school classes
Both the statements are true.. err... alright, maybe not the first one as much. You can question the concept of science (which, in a way, boils down to "Question everything") and still be a scientist.
Questioning the validity of (other's and your own previous) science is a part of the concept of science.
Questioning the concept of science is more of a philosophical matter and would be valid in a quest for better concepts.
The above two statements are not actually denying each other.
No, and neither do people who question the results, which is, in fact, what most "anti-science" people do.
Skepticism is part of the scientific method. Blind faith is not.
Hate to break it to you sunshine, going "nuh uh" at any science you don't like cause it clashes with your world view you gained from religion or your Bigoted daddy?
That's called blind faith.
Thanks for your opinion but I didn't deny any science, all I said is I don't fault people for questioning it.
Also, your insults are unnecessary and childish and don't really help your argument. I've argued my case respectfully and without name-calling, and I suggest you do the same.
"I don't have an argument so I'm going to deflect by saying I'M not a science denier I just spend my time defending science deniers. Also anyone who disagrees with me is a childish meanie 😭"
The guy thinks no one got anywhere from staying in school, I got odds on them being anti vax as well
"I don't have an argument so I'm just gonna pretend you said something you didn't and argue with that."
There are a number of easy classes you can take online, where you will learn about neat things like "the water cycle" and "why is the sky blue?"
Try hard enough and you might even get a gold star from the teacher
So you're saying the cure for bootlicking is becoming a teacher's pet? Isn't that just bootlicking with extra steps?
Teachers pet? What is this, high school?
If you think this sort of behavior stops when you get to college, I got news for you...
I've been a TA, I have personally witnessed it.
Im saying the cure for being a loser is to stop sluffing class, and maybe your grades will improve
No thanks. Nobody has ever become great from attending class.
Pfftt, ok bud. "Im not anti science! But no one ever became great by learning"
What a self own
What if I told you you don't need to go to class to learn?
What if I told you that the vast majority of real science actually does require you to go to class to learn?
I would say you're a bootlicking teacher's pet.
Licking what boot? The boot of the concept of learning things other people know?
Let me guess. You think vaccines cause autism, right? Because mommy told you otherwise, and mommy scary?
You can learn that from books, too. Or watching YouTube. Plenty of ways to learn that don't require a classroom setting.
Not as a rule, no. But I'm honestly very uninformed about this topic and currently don't have a reason to change that.
Let me guess, you enjoy making wild assumptions about people based on minimal evidence and then have imaginary arguments in your head with them which you always win.
If you think youre learning a level of science to challenge published reports via youtube, I completely understand how you became such a luddite. Like. You understand the point of classes is to have someone who knows the subject weed out the trustworthy books and sources from the youtube links, right? Oh what am I saying. Of course you dont.
My guy, you quite literally said no one became great from attending class. Do I need to know any more about you? Youre practically bragging about how stupid you are.
I literally have a Master's degree, so I'd say I've taken my fair share of classes for this lifetime. And I'm guessing you probably don't have a PhD because in my experience, most people who make it that far have enough humility to understand just how little they understand.
Also, your insults still don't impress me, but your overreliance on them speaks volumes about your own level of intelligence. Let me guess, your IQ is in the double digits.
Im literally barack obama, and my schooling got me to the white house, so.....
And anyone with a degree should be well aware that no one has put stock in that old scam test of IQ for almost 3 decades. But please, mr class sluffer, tell me more about how smart your mommy says you are.
LMAO okay buddy. Can't quit starting wars, eh? Old habits die hard I guess.
Also, for someone so ardently advocating for going to class you have a suspiciously large amount of free time on a Monday morning...
Because I have a big boy job, and when you get paid the big boy dollars you get to pick your hours. So my weekend is 3 days long.
How did I land that job again? Huh, must have been from watching youtube....
Fuckin embarassing you think this is a war loool
"Oooh, witness me, I have a job, I'm very important! I work all day to pay taxes and rent, but at least they don't keep me on a short leash."
Yeah, see, I knew you were a midwit.
BTW did you get one of these when you graduated?
Skepticism is the literal precursor to the scientific method, and that's where you're stopping. There is no science at the skepticism step.
You're basically saying, "Gravity isn't real because I don't see proof."
A real scientist would drop an apple, a feather, a bowling ball, and verify it.
Good, so we agree on something then. No skepticism = no science.
Strawman. I didn't say that.
Yes, and some of the people in the "anti-science" community ARE doing that. And the rest of them are conducting a self-experiment on what happens if you ignore all the science...