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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Outages may only affect you if you're syncing a new device or making a write (adding or editing an entry), otherwise your entire vault is available locally.

And that's not even a limitation at all, it's a trade-off. The convenience of syncing devices beats the crap of keepass* solutions for most. And even as a syncthing user, I would absolutely hate having to manage vault sync conflicts myself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if they changed something recently, but when there was an outage a few months ago, you couldn't even open the app nor use the extension https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/14yk2ax/bitwarden_down_this_morning/

And that's not even a limitation at all, it's a trade-off.

No, that's a limitation AND a trade-off. The stupidity of trusting a third-party cloud provider to manage something as important as all of your fricking passwords is mind-blowing. It's as if you people haven't learnt anything at all from LastPass.

I'm a Syncthing user myself and NEVER had a sync conflict syncing my Keepass db across a dozen devices - not even once.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

as if you people haven’t learnt anything at all from LastPass

LastPass had a list of concerning design choices, using cloud is not one of them. Your personal preference here is irrelevant.

that’s a limitation AND a trade-off

It's really not. You can't expect the average user to set up yet another service to sync their devices in a way that is conflict-free and available at all times for writes. Sooner or later a write will be lost. It's very much a trade-off between partition tolerance (synchronization of multiple devices), consistency, and availability - see the CAP theorem.

Bitwarden maintains consistency by refusing writes when the server is unreachable. Keepass just delegates partitioning to another service entirely (e.g. Syncthing), which opens the possibility of losing edits.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Considering the breaches lastpass had in just the last year, using their cloud service is absolutely a concerning choice. how they got breached is especially egregious.