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Maybe you like your privacy being violated but the rest of us don't
i get that you think your dna is private. really, i do.
but you broadcast it 24/7. it is only a matter of time until the entire planet is easily mapped genetically. we're half way there now, and a huge chunk of those people 'did not opt in'. a human can be mapped in minutes, if not seconds.
you send your genetic code out into the open 24 hours a day 7 days a week in every space you occupy and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
i understand not wanting that information used against you, hence all the genetic laws.... but it is public. your dna is not going to be some secret you get to keep in perpetuity any more than your hair color or marital status.
That's actually a really good point that I hadn't previously realized. Collecting genetic information from any living human is incredibly trivial to do without them ever consenting or even knowing that it happened.
If your definition of privacy is "Information that cannot be obtained", you have a shit definition of privacy.
Privacy is a legal issue. Nobody should be keeping records of our DNA, or any other information, regardless of how easy that information is to acquire.
at no point did i say it should not be regulated in use.
its like getting pissed when your exact image is captured on camera. it it illegal? mostly, no. can it be? yep, depends.
Would it be okay if I traced every bit of public data about you, including your name, address, cellphone, familial information, work history, and online social media history etc, put it into a nice little package and put it online? I mean, I'd only be doxxing you with publicly available information that was easily linked from your profile. Would it be okay if I go the next step and gather your DNA from a publicly available location? All I need is a quick strand of hair.
I mean it's public. Anyone can find this information with a little effort....or do you feel have some sort of right to privacy? I understand not wanting any of this information broadcast to the public....but it is public information.
do you really think there arent entities accumulating this information on you, right now??
and hair? you dont need hair to get a dna sample. you breathe it out constantly.
you should have no expectation of privacy to the sequence of your dna.
I'm a twin. No such illusions for us. It's not even exclusively mine! He's dumped his into nexus and fast pass and 20 different crime databases as he hoped from job to job, so they've all got it now.
I knew I shouldn't have masturbated on that ceiling fan in the food court...
Purely from a technical standpoint I'm wondering what you're referring to here. Most of my work is DNA sequencing using different techniques and while we can do it blisteringly fast if necessary it still takes at minimum a few hours to isolate dna, prep the dna for sequencing and then running for 24 hours followed by data analysis. That's for bacterial DNA, I don't have experience with sequencing human genomes but I imagine it is more complicated than bacteria. But, I haven't kept up with literature on this subject lately so now I'm wondering if I've missed some breakthrough technique that speeds up the process to minutes.
I hope they atleast got a warrant to run the operation and have protocols to destroy genetic details unconnected to the case after its done.
"We know the murderer is a human, so we got a warrant to take blood samples from every human. Which of course makes that a legal and moral decision."
"Obviously we'll destroy all of those samples afterwards. We're the police, you can trust us"