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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Repeat: FOR FREE! No product!

If it's free, chances are you're the product. I assume that there is a market for user-generated "prompts" somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, that's not how open-source or open-source philosophies work. They share their work because they were able to download other people's work, and sometimes people improve upon their own work.

These aren't corporations. You don't need to immediately jump to capitalistic conclusions. Just jump on Unstable Diffusion Discord or CivitAI yourself. It's all free.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These aren’t corporations.

I know, I know: "but the website is free" (for now). However, Civit AI, Inc. is not a loose community. There must be something that pays their bills. I wonder what it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like you're implying people should look into things before making accusations. Like, find out if what they're saying is true before they say it. And that's why no one asked you to the prom.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re probably losing money now and just trying to build a user base as a first-mover. They accept donations and subscriptions with fairly minor benefits, but I imagine hosting and serving sizable AI models is not cheap.

They’ll probably have to transition to paid access at some point, but I don’t see it as particularly unethical as they have bills to pay and do attempt to moderate content on the site.

I tend to agree generating adult content of real people is unethical, but probably less so than how a lot of real porn is made. I don’t think there should be open avenues for sharing that kind of stuff online, and their rules should be better enforced.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tend to agree generating adult content of real people is unethical, but probably less so than how a lot of real porn is made.

wholeheartedly disagree. "real porn" is literally made by consenting adult performers. Hence, it's ethical. Generating adult content of real people is (typically) done without the consent of the people involved, thereby making it unethical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don’t think anything unethical happens in the production of porn I’m not sure what to tell you. It’s getting better but exploitation, sex trafficking, revenge porn, etc. have been a thing since pornography was invented.

AI porn at least does not necessarily need to consider consent. Plenty of AI porn involves animated figures or photorealistic humans that don’t represent any identifiable person.

The only hang up I have is producing images of actual people without their consent, and I don’t think it’s a new problem as photoshop has existed for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm sorry to tell you but you have swallowed the propaganda from anti-porn/anti-sex work organizations like Exodus Cry and Morality in Media (who now go by the name NCOSE).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for letting me know. I’m glad that sex workers are never exploited to produce porn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's a market for commission artists doing this for money since the dawn of art