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Why return-to-office mandates fail::The question over whether to allow employees to work from home has been settled. Here’s the new normal.

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Because the best performing employees will leave for more money in other remote roles, dumping a ton of work on the remaining workers who are either a) mediocre, or b) incompetent extroverts who can't wait to spend all day talking about fantasy football with a captive audience.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A remote work perk is the new onsite barista and free lunches. People don’t want free Korean BBQ, they want to not commute for 3 hours a day.

Top tech talent will always go to the companies with the best perks and comp.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (3 children)

People want both.
I work for a company that made the audacious decision to let people work how they feel they work best.
They got the feedback that there are some things that some people miss about working together in an office.
So once a month they have catering brought in to bait people into coming in and seeing their coworkers face to face, optionally.

My loose observation is that pizza fails the 20 minute drive test, but any BBQ passes.

I live an hour away because housing prices are literally 1/3 what I would pay closer, so I only go in if everyone on my team is and the food is up to snuff.

Point is, people want BBQ and less commuting, and we should make it clear that we expect both.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Yeah. Ironically the one thing that actually made me come to the office more often is the free lunch coupons they started giving out. I still don’t come in often, but definitely more often than before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My loose observation is that pizza fails the 20 minute drive test, but any BBQ passes.

Have you tried biryani?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yup, it's great. We haven't gotten it from work, but I'm sure it would bring in a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I find with ADHD I can focus a lot better from home but get a lot of motivation through social feedback, so the current hybrid arrangement tends to be a happy medium.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Top tech talent could suddenly apply to any job instead of the few nearby companies, exploding their options. If anything, even remote companies should send Korean BBQ to each employee's house.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Captive audience because they’re trapped in the office with them.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trapped in an "open collaborative space", yes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Ugh. If I need to collaborate with my colleagues, I'll visit their office; I don't need (or want) to hear every phone call they make or their music escaping their headphones.

I cannot stress enough how much I hate open plan offices and am so glad I do not work in one.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Dude, did fucking Josh Allen have a season, or what? Week after week, he just kept it steady and helped me win my league!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

The thing about Arsenal is, they always try to walk it in

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

This genuinely spiked my blood pressure. I hope you're fucking happy