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Lots of people and countries are claiming Russia is committing genocide and are investigating that possibility.
Several nations and legal institutions have also classed China's actions against the Uyghur as genocidal.
However, as far as I'm aware neither Russia or China are signed up to the ICC so there's not much point in using that body to penalise them.
Israel is though and your claim there's no proof is literally true (in the sense you used the word 'proof') but there is plenty of evidence that Israel certainly has genocide very much in the forefront of their minds when members of the Israeli government suggest nuking Gaza, or creating 'no go' areas for Palestinians in recognised Palestinian areas that just so happen to be where Palestinian farmers grow and harvest food. Israeli historian of the Holocaust Omer Bartov warned that statements made by top Israeli officials "could easily be construed as indicating a genocidal intent."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=939hSvcH0qM
Israelis are the real victims of genocide in this conflict, as is literally the only possible relation between genocide and Israel
There is no "dispute" between Israel and South Africa that the court can rule over, because that would require that they engage with them.
"Random quotes" of people like the Israeli Prime Minister, Secretary of Defense, and Knesset members mean nothing, it is not policy
Hamas is in literally every home and hospital, in every humanitarian zone and aid vehicle, and embedded in every facility of civilian infrastructure
Israel provides all the food, water, medicine, fuel, etc. that Gazans could possibly want
Israel must protect themselves from Hamas which has sworn to destroy it
The world has forgotten about the plight of the Ukrainians and Uyghurs who are peaceful
Follow this simple rule for clarity, replace the names and ethnic background of the parties in question with A and B, acknowledge that A and B have historical conflict and are distinct ethnic groups but set aside their cultural characteristics and specifics. Now take the actions of A towards B and compare them to historical examples. Under jurisprudence there can be no a priori exoneration of any group due to historical factors, actors must be judged solely on their actions.
The ICC follows "The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. It does not include political groups or so called “cultural genocide”." And Israel is walking a fine line at the moment by claiming that they are exterminating a political group "Hamas" but their actions towards the civilian population will determine their guilt or innocence in the eyes of history and the international community. The ICC's job is to collect all the facts that we civilians can not, and make a determination based on those facts. If you believe Israel is innocent, you should not worry as the facts will clearly exonerate them and so will history be written.