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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My current rules are that I'm gonna spend £10 a month on music (what I'd be paying Spotify) and try to buy directly from artists. I'll allow myself listening to stuff on Youtube so I can gauge whether or not I wanna then go ahead and buy a song or an album if I've listened to it enough times and want it in my library.

So ... it's okay to listen to it for free on YouTube and maybe buy it directly, but not to pay a Spotify subscription and listen to it there (and also maybe buy it directly)? The whole rant about "Spotify doesn't pay musicians very much" comes off as disingenuous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Jack Stratton of Vulfpeck was interviewed on CNBN about the Spotify IPO and gets around to making a good point about it here, "stop whining... me." Artists don't have to use a label and get paid in these "pitties" from Spotify, ultimately its a bizarre consumption model and likely unsustainable.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The amazing mental gymnastics that these people go through to justify their piracy and inane behaviors.

Musician's pay is just the excuse of the day for them to feel okay about what they're doing. Honestly, if you are gonna pirate then just pirate, stop pretending that it's for a good cause or higher purpose, other than to keep your own wallets stacked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably pirated almost every artist I've subsequently bought from and go to shows average about once a month. Have professional musicians in the family and they work as studio musicians, composers for media, teaching, play in bands that do covers for corporate events, or as a backing band for a front person. That's probably the majority of musicians unless you're lucky enough to be in a band that gains any notoriety. Most bands are passion projects between musicians who have day jobs and might only play a few small gigs at local venues. So when we're talking about piracy as if it's the most significant thing impacting musicians, really it's a small facet of a very difficult industry to work in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I don't really think piracy is the single most significant thing impacting musicians, my main point to the "Honorable" pirates is just to cut the shit and admit you rip people off because you want to, not because you are some incarnation of Captain Jack Sparrow out to serve justice while you loot and plunder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly? No, while I do still pirate, I am slowly buying all the music I can buy in form of vynils records and CDs, other than digital downloads from bandacamp.

Watching for free on YouTube is not piracy, and laughably, I'd say it is better than using Spotify that quite literally exploits artists for cents.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

No, while I do still pirate, I am slowly buying all the music I can buy in form of vynils records and CDs, other than digital downloads from bandacamp.

Good on you, the act of buying is what makes the difference.

Watching for free on YouTube is not piracy, and laughably, I'd say it is better than using Spotify that quite literally exploits artists for cents.

My comment is in the wrong thread as the other commentor pointed out, it was directed at the Robin Hood wannabes who thinks somehow ripping off artists and creators is okay, because they have a shitty deal with distributors / media companies.