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[–] [email protected] 145 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

I can destroy 99% of cancer cells in a lab using a hammer. The important part is whether you can do the same in a person without killing them.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

To be honest, when I read the title I wondered if fire is what they were referring to. After all, heat is basically just particles bumping around... could be described as vibrating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

First thing that came to mind.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

This paper refers to neither a common drug, nor vitamin. And if you’d read the paper, which is still in ‘prepublication’, you may have noticed that it refers to a novel process. Patients are generally, in my clinical experience averse to being placed in fires AND to being shot, even therapeutically. So I have to ask, is your purpose to promote XKCD? A Nobel pursuit, as far as I can tell. Or to sow discord in a scientific discussion? Which is annoying at best.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You'd think that it would be a might difficult getting a hammer into a body, but I salute you.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to. Just keep hammering away until you reach the cancer. Phase II trials start soon.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I volunteer my biological father, I can remove his limbs with a turn of the century brass blowtorch if that helps the experiment.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would argue it is actually quite easy to get a hammer into a body. Precision and accuracy are the larger concerns.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you simply get a large enough hammer those concerns go away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Or smaller, depending on point of entry.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

You won't get it in there with that attitude.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The test was done on mice where half of them ended cancer free and I assume survived.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No lab mice survive the lab unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Shouldn't have been so tasty.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Aminocyanine molecules are already used in bioimaging as synthetic dyes. Commonly used in low doses to detect cancer, they stay stable in water and are very good at attaching themselves to the outside of cells.

Looks like an interesting choice, since they were already made to attach to cancer cells.

They work like an existing method, but with infrared light vs visible, which penetrates deeper into the body.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The thing about the used molecules is that they attach to the cancer more than other cells.

Apart from that you can concentrate the infrared light at the main clusters.

I'd say it is an improvement. Even if only the main clusters are destroyed it's noninvasive way to reduce the chance of mutation (less cancer cells means less chances for a mutation to gain chemo resistance).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I agree although the term used sounds like something stan lee coined.