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Lucid’s $50,000 Tesla Challenger Under Development, CEO Suggests::Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson said the company's next model line-up will target a mass-market family car segment.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not gonna happen until battery prices come wayyyy down.

Tesla is the only one that could do it but they won't. Too much demand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of cars coming out of China at that price point. With decent range figures too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because China has zero safety or intellectual property regulations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn’t stop them from existing, or being highly competitive. It’s up to western and Japanese car makers to compete rather than pretend it’s not happening.

The cars also pass NCAP/ANCAP testing with 5 stars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn’t stop them from existing

...what? Why would you even say that? Of course they "exist" but they don't have to meet any of the safety or labor regulations they do in the US.

But by all means if you want to further exploit cheap labor and drive a deathtrap, move to China.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to like them, but explain to me how it's a 'deathtrap' if it passes the same safety standards as a car produced anywhere else. A 5 star NCAP car doesn't become less safe just because it's Chinese.

6 of the top 10 safest cars tested in 2023 are from Chinese automakers.

They are producing and exporting safe and affordable electric vehicles and they're seeing great success in Europe and Oceania. Tarrifs are the only thing protecting the US auto market from similar inroads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They are producing and exporting safe and affordable electric vehicles and they're seeing great success in Europe

  1. Let's see it

  2. Add another $5-10k to that to ship them to the other side of the planet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not gonna happen until battery prices come wayyyy down.

One would expect increasing the number of cars sold should drive economies of scale nine manufacturing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To an extent, yes. But at this point there's a production shortage and they can't even make enough as it is. So it would actually cost MORE money to increase supply.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably increasing demand should lead to ramping up of production over time, as it has in the past for pretty much everything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, "over time". Now is not that time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"working on" a car is not the same thing as selling a car...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well you said tesla is the only one that can do it,and they are not, I reckon they are the one of the companies that can't do it because they need big margins to expand

Also

17.5k pounds

https://heycar.com/uk/blog/n2022-dacia-spring-electric--price--specs-and-relea

Citroen ec3

21K pounds

https://ev-database.org/uk/car/2039/Citroen-e-C3#

Tesla is about to have a bad time