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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

First thing that came to mind, honestly thought it was the quote at first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've actually never seen the movie. I just know that it's a widespread view among people who focus on road safety.

Most news articles I can find dealing with this issue, like this one seem to focus mostly on the idea that one driver may be mostly at fault. Which is true and definitely part of the equation, but personally I'm even more focused on the ways in which the road design itself may have been a contributing factor. When you have high speed roads that also have a large number of driveways and side streets (i.e., a "stroad"), higher numbers of crashes are inevitable, and can be avoided by better design. Same with when you create bike lanes with no separation, or separated but giving cars high speed ways to turn across them at intersections. The design of that street is a significant contributing factor, and calling crashes an "accident" lets the designers and the politicians who signed off on it off the hook.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

calling crashes an "accident" lets the designers and the politicians who signed off on it off the hook.

No, it doesn't. Accidents are just things that weren't intended to happen

If calling something an accident let people off the hook for their responsibility in the situation then people wouldn't go to jail for car accudents

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s not about the dictionary definition of the term. It’s about the subconscious effect your choice of language has on how people think about things. When you call something an accident it gives people the signal that there was nothing that could have been done, and so nothing does get done. There’s no pressure on politicians and engineers in most of the anglosphere to do any of the things that would actually improve road safety. Indeed, a lot of the time when they do try to make our roads safer, you see fearmongering and NIMBY opposition against the idea.

Changing the language is one small step in helping to make our roads safer by making it clearer that making them safer is something we need to be concentrating on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are clearly mixing up the phrase "an act of God" with "accident"

The former implies nothing could be done and is said after accidents, but the latter is what we're discussing and it does not imply that at all

An insanely popular saying is that "regulations are written in blood" after all

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Go back and reread the comment that you just replied to. Because nothing at here is even remotely related to it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

It’s not about the dictionary definition of the term. It’s about the subconscious effect your choice of language has on how people think about things.

The only way it would affect "how people think about things" is if people don't understand what "accident" means. Which is what happens when people like yourself intentionally spread that sort of disinformation.

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