this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2023
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This is a community for designs specifically crafted to make the experience worse for the user. This can be due to greed, apathy, laziness or just downright scumbaggery.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Software Engineers and UX/UI Designers need a code of ethics, like yesterday.

Yes, business is ultimately to blame, but those folks are beyond saving - they will never ever ever put the brakes on an initiative that could make more money legally. Unless there's blowback from an ethics board / professionals in charge of implementing their dark patterns.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Why include software engineers in this? In the large companies I've worked for, the people with the title "software engineer" have absolutely nothing to do with the actual design of something like this; we just get handed a spec and are expected to implement it as is. In smaller companies I always did one-person projects where I handled every aspect of the development process including UX and UI, but my title was not "software engineer". Are you expecting the engineers to refuse to implement a "feature" like this on principle or something?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you expecting the engineers to refuse to implement a "feature" like this on principle or something?

Yes. Or at least question it.

Just like I'd expect a civil engineer to question the plans for that bridge they're building if it seems like it's not up to spec.

Or like I'd expect an electrical engineer to revise the plans for a circuit that poses an electrocution risk.

Why would software engineers be held to a different standard?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I'm a software dev. Given, the shit I work on right now is all internal. But I question the hell out of stupid decisions like this. I'm sure things get questioned on these public-facing apps all the time. But at the end of the day, the business gets what the business wants. Inevitably, we don't have the final say on it, even if/when we push back. And we definitely do.

We should be holding the execs and business leaders that are making these stupid decisions accountable.

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