Mathematically they're equivalent, but the feelings could not be further apart.
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Jesus lotta "motorcycles are a deathtrap" in here.
Hi, I've been riding for 10 years on all different kinds of machines through many lengths of commute/fun. allow me to be abrupt motorcycles cost more than a Prius to own. The tires don't last as long, the maintenance is more frequent, obviously the gear you absolutely should be wearing is expensive but hey if none of that bothers you please continue to enjoy riding.
It's not very active but there's a motorcycle community here on lemmy, please join us ;)
Something about the phrase "living to the fullest" doesn't allude to sensible motorcycle safety precautions.
There is an entire sub culture of motorcyclists that agree, I do not however condone riding without appropriate gear.
I agree with that as well. I ride a cruiser and I wear a full face helmet, jacket, boots or shoes covering the ankles, and at least thick denim pants. Sometimes I think about getting a 3/4 helmet but I don't think I could bring myself to do it.
When I was real hardcore riding everyday I wore waterproof jacket, pants, and boots. Now I just don't ride in the rain at all if I can help it.
As one on an extended hiatus due to getting hit by an SUV and high-siding, I recommend only using a full face or highly rated modular with a good lock. I have a face because of my HJC modular and am not confident in anything without a chinbar.
I've often wondered why people gravitate so much to quarter and even half helmets for this reason. They do protect your head better than nothing but also expose your face (in the case of a quarter helmet) to the ground.
I suspect that, for some, it is the misconcption that the visor limits field of view in a meaningful way. Might have been the case 40-50 years ago but seems a rarity with modern helmets.
Back on that site that sounded like read it I asked some of these people and it just boiled down to "because I can/freedumb".
Ah yeah. I forget about that set of bikers often as I only associated with the ADV folks who are all about ATGATT. Really weird to me to think that people actually want to be PPE luddites and miss the chance to wear a modern suit of armor, without being out of place or violating the laws of some municipalities.
Yeah I never understood it myself. I once had a run in with one of those "hard ass types" while on a little virago 250 and they proceeded to lecture me on the ways of the roads...which was entirely just giving them right of way always no matter what. He was annoyed at me for passing him on a 250...in traffic.