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[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

One can be pissed about people using it as part of a strategy to purposely confuse the public into thinking that copyright infringement is the same as theft

No, you have it wrong, one is part of a strategy to confuse the public into thinking it's not, because it justifies doing whatever they want.

still feel that copyright infringement is wrong and no one should be entitled to “literally everything someone else creates.”

But they don't feel that copyright infringement is wrong. How closely did you read the previous statements?

They literally said "Intellectual property is a scam". I don't know how else you could possibly interpret that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know how the original poster meant it, but one possible way to interpret it (which is coincidentally my opinion) is that the concept of intellectual property is a scam, but the underlying actual legal concepts are not. Meaning, the law defines protections for copyrights, trademarks, patents, and trade secrets, and each of those has their uses and are generally not “scams,” but mixing them all together and packaging them up into this thing called intellectual property (which has no actual legal basis for its existence) is the scam. Does that make sense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Exactly, "intellectual property" doesn't exist. It's a term that was created to try to lump together various unrelated government-granted rights: trademark, copyright, patents, etc. They're all different, and the only thing they have in common is that they're all rights granted by the government. None of them is property though. That was just a clever term made up by a clever lobbyist to convince people to think of them as property, rather than government-granted rights related to the copying of ideas. Property is well-understood, limited government-granted rights to control the copying of ideas is less well understood. If the lobbyists can get people to think of "intellectual property" they've won the framing of the issue.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So it's just a classic case of someone saying something entirely unrepresentative of what they actually mean, then arguing it to death...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Could we stop having this meta-debate about what a person who is not either of us meant, and instead could you comment on the substance of my post?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Intellectual property is not a scam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok, thanks for the engaging discussion. Goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If you think it's okay to copy what someone else has created without their permission, for a product you have not paid for, we have nothing to discuss. It's as simple as that.