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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Lawyer here: this isn’t necessarily correct and in America it’s state dependent. There are absolutely parts of the law you can waive, including negligence of a party which is likely your bungee jumping scenario with the rope snapping.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Are T&Cs retroactive? I would think any new T&Cs could only apply from that point forward, not that they could retroactively absolve themselves of liability or how you could pursue it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Like all good lawyer answers: maybe. I don’t know enough about the specific amended terms or their data breach. Courts sometimes enforce adhesion contacts and sometimes don’t. But retroactive in and of itself isn’t illegal; for example, if you could edit NOT retroactively settle a dispute, you’d have no settlement agreements.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But settling a dispute requires compensation for the party that was damaged. That's what a settlement is.

You can't say "If you don't do A, B, and C you can't sue me! Nah nah nah!" Without compensation courts are not going to believe that anyone knowingly agreed to the settlement.

Now if they gave everyone like $5 and said "Sign here where it says you can't sue," that would be different.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You’re referring to the contract concept of “consideration” which sometimes is the same as compensation but can also do doing/ not doing an action. Sometimes consideration isn’t required either, particularly if the original contract had adequate consideration and says future amendments don’t have to have it. (Depends a lot on which state). That may or may not matter here. It really depends on the specific terms at dispute and you can’t just assume it fixes this issue.

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