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[–] [email protected] 223 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Well, that's not how terms of service work. You can still sue

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Previous rulings such as Rubber v Glue and Face v Hand make this look like a really strong strategy

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

IANAL, but I think they should be in a far weaker position with their whole "if you don't object within 30 days we will consider you to have accepted". They can't really argue that no positive action from the other party is construed as acceptance of a new contract. If there was continued use of the service that would be different, but no action cannot reasonably be construed as acceptance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I think you're going to be very surprised by how quickly they win any trial when they first impress upon the court, "I know you are, but what am I?" Of course, the judge will primarily be swayed by the moment when they call a customer to the witness stand and then mutter, "guiltypersonsayswhat"

You'd be forgiven for thinking that no judge would rule in favor of a company who, post-damages, tries to build a loophole that ties the hands of users who likely will no longer trust the platform enough to log on. But this is the legal version of a bully giving a triple-w (wet willy and a wedgie) to someone who's ignoring them and judges think that kind of behavior is super cool. That's why if you ever ask a judge "what's that on your robe?" as then flick their nose when they look down, they'll simply laugh and you'll be friends forever.

IANAL, but everything I said feels really accurate. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I like anal too

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's exactly how it works, as long as they notify everybody and set a drop dead date on it, usage beyond that point constitutes acceptance. No different than every other passive TOS on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Which is to say, entirely unenforceable. TOS don't hold up in court, but it requires time and money to get to court.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That's exactly what they're trying to do, the point I'm making is it won't hold up to any scrutiny. You need at least some sort of positive action from the other party to construe agreeing to new terms. Contracts are always two way agreements, in spite of how many consumer facing businesses would like you to believe they dictate the terms.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Desperate strategy they're hoping will fool some of the people some of the time.

Trusting complete strangers with highly personal information is never a good idea. Even if they promise to take good care of it, before or after they've already got your money.

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