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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It’s because it breaks all the nice extra functionality of iMessage. iMessage is closer to Discord chats; You can do things like react to messages, send live emojis, spoiler/emphasize text, edit/delete sent messages, see when someone is typing, see read receipts, automatically send check-ins when you arrive at a destination, draw doodles, send full quality media, share galleries natively, etc… But as soon as someone with an android joins the group chat, all of that goes out the window and you’re stuck with boring old SMS.

Is it intentionally hostile on Apple’s part to bar androids from joining? Yes. But the reactions from Apple users aren’t entirely unjustified, because they’re left with a noticeably reduced feature set as soon as someone forces them to use green bubbles.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Is it intentionally hostile on Apple’s part to bar androids from joining? Yes. But the reactions from Apple users aren’t entirely unjustified

The reaction from Apple users is to blame Android users - which is entirely unjustified.

But of course, post purchase rationalization and brand loyalty play a big part in why people want to externalize blame rather than questioning their own decision or blaming their favorite company for providing a shitty cross-platform messaging experience.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So why not use something like WhatsApp or Signal instead then? Sounds like a terrible user experience to me. Nobody I know uses iMessage, everybody uses WhatsApp instead, which is platform agnostic.

But I'm European, so the iPhone penetration is lower iirc and they can't stay in their bubble as much.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because Whatsapp users are just as big "twats" as you call it. Try functioning without Whatsapp in Europe, you can't, and no amount of excuses will get you out of it.

Any messaging network starts acting like peer pressure once enough people around you are using it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm personally dying to see the DMA do its magic. If there's even a dreamy chance of not having to have the big messaging apps installed on my phone in order to talk to people on these platforms, then I don't want to stop dreaming.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

In theory it would be trivial to open up the big networks, if they were each willing to expose a public, open API. The APIs don't even have to be interoperable directly, they could let the client apps deal with that. It could be rolled out super fast if they wanted to – couple of months.

But of course none of them actually wants this, so I expect they will fight it tooth and nail, while not appearing to do so. Meaning they'll drag this out for as long as possible while blaming each other. I expect RCS will be a perfect red herring for this, because of its complexity and the ability to blame interop issues on each other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wut? I’m in Europe and I’ve never had WhatsApp in my life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My point wasn't specifically about Whatsapp, it's that you have to use what the others around you use.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

is bullying justified