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White House threatens to veto anti-EV bill just passed by US House (arstechnica.com)
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White House threatens to veto anti-EV bill just passed by US House::The bill would prevent the EPA from enforcing tougher new pollution standards.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

… bridges? The things over engineered to be able to support more weight for longer periods of time than they are required to?

I think they’ll be just fine. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think they’ll be just fine. 🤦🏻‍♂️

https://infrastructurereportcard.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Bridges-2021.pdf

Currently, 42% of all bridges are at least 50 years old, and 46,154, or 7.5% of the nation’s bridges, are considered structurally deficient, meaning they are in “poor” condition.

We're not doing good in maintaining them already... Now you want to increase weight load on all of them 30-100%...

Estimates show that we need to increase spending on bridge rehabilitation from $14.4 billion annually to $22.7 billion annually, or by 58%, if we are to improve the condition. At the current rate of investment, it will take until 2071 to make all of the repairs that are currently necessary, and the additional deterioration over the next 50 years will become overwhelming.

Our bridges are not in good shape in the USA.

But sure, let's live in your delusion! That will only lead to success! Totally won't lead to people dying avoidable deaths.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The majority of EVs weigh less than quite a few SUV and pickup ICE vechiles driving around today. If this is such a concern, why isn’t the whistle also being blown about these vehicles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People are not replacing their ICE SUVs with BEV sedans... And ICE sedan vs a BEV sedan is 30-100% heavier. I would presume the same would happen to SUVs as well. And sure enough we can look!

Volvo makes a car that's effectively the same, but one electric and the other gas. The EX90 and the XC90

EX90 - 6213 lbs
XC90 - 4522 lbs.

Gee golly! Dead on what I stated.

Ford F150 lightning! ~6,500 lbs
F-150 XLT SuperCrew w/ 4wd? 4,705 lbs.

If this is such a concern, why isn’t the whistle also being blown about these vehicles?

Because we've been ignoring this problem for decades and nobody actually listens to people who talk about actual problems in this country. Also, because people like you don't care to read articles like the one I linked above.

Increasing weight will be a multiplicative amount of damage that it does to the roads/bridges. A 30% increase in weight may be something like a 2-3x amount of wear that it causes on a road. It's well known that trucks and SUVs do probably about double(if not more) the damage to roads as sedans (https://www.insidescience.org/news/how-much-damage-do-heavy-trucks-do-our-roads and https://www.profitgreenly.com/p/road-damage-fees-and-profit). Car companies aren't going to tell you that this is happening... They would sell less cars then. Government has been telling you for decades... you ignore them now. Or worse, your local government doesn't give a shit and spends the money like morons anyway.

I've been reading these articles for decades now... and every news org has covered it at some point probably many times over the years. examples:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/17/why-us-bridges-are-in-such-bad-shape.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/29/thousands-of-us-bridges-in-poor-condition-as-pace-of-repair-slows-report.html

And I could find more... but google has become really bad over the years at finding "historic" web pages.