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[–] [email protected] 215 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (85 children)

I don't get it.

People wanted another Bethesda game.

They got what they wanted.

I said in 2008, after playing the first Fallout game by Bethesda instead of Black Isle: "Only Bethesda could manage to make a post apocalyptic prostitute boring."

They've always been boring, they've always had ugly character models, and the writing has always been bad. You get what you paid for. A Bethesda game.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

I think the fundamental problem is that people had different expectations for a game set in space, both because Bethesda stoked them (all of that talk of having the idea decades ago / first new franchise in however many years / Microsoft bought the company just to get it as an exclusive / etc) and because after No Man's Sky people kind of expected that with their budget / resources they would manage to fix that game's problems and create something richer + more seamless.

In retrospect, if they'd simply sold it as "Skyrim in Space," admitted to the limitations up front - same underlying engine, limited amount of variety to procedurally-generated content, loading screens instead of seamless takeoff/landing, etc - and not pretended that it was something new, the response would have probably been much more uniformly positive.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

after No Man's Sky people kind of expected that with their budget / resources they would manage to fix that game's problems and create something richer + more seamless

That was basically what I hoped for. NMS type game, but with Skyrim/ fallout level modding, stories, quests and deeper meaning to it.

And with better procgen. They have the manpower and expertise to do that.

I haven't bought the game yet, waiting to see the initial responses. Now.. I'll probably pick it up on sale sometime, when bugs are fixed and there's solid mods.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I still think waiting to buy a Bethesda game is smart if you aren't a huge fan or something. Skyrim was pretty crap at launch and all the praise it gets now is mostly referring to Skyrim well after launch when patches and mods turned it into something good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I played Skyrim at launch and it was great.

Mods added another level to the game but I can happily play the game without.

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