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The ability to change features, prices, and availability of things you've already paid for is a powerful temptation to corporations.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They deserve to get money for it. No pirate is against that.

If we would exchange money for the product all would be fine. Some people would still pirate because they have no money or just don't want to pay but the majority would pay.

But as we buy just a license that can be revoked for any reason consumers feel that the system is rigged against them.

So it is a natural reaction to try to fuck over a system that is fucking you over.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People pirate software that is buyable on GoG, itch.io or movies that are on disc all the time. Just because some platforms offer the product with just a license shouldn't mean it's now morally justified to pirate it.

But I see people bringing the statement because of platform like Steam or Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why shouldn't it mean that? Seems fair to me.

And it is not just about licenses. Often the pirated version is just better because they took out things like DRMs that make a Game run slower or movies where you don't have to wait trougth CSI warnings and the likes.

Piracy is a service problem. People will always choose the way of least resistance and that seems to be piracy for the moment.

And as i said, some people will pirate stuff anyway no matter what. But those are people we don't need to talk about because they wouldn't pay anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Piracy is a service problem. People will always choose the way of least resistance and that seems to be piracy for the moment.

I said this elsewhere and there are many, many examples of this. For example, in the age of streaming music services where you can pick between a decent handful that have basically everything on each, and that are pretty reasonably priced, how many people are still pirating a ton of music? I know there are some, but if I had to guess, peak music piracy has been gone since the mid oughts. On the other hand, peak video piracy probably hasn't happened yet and probably will continue to grow until a similar situation is reached. Like, there is no way that Sony/Discovery didn't just create another wave of piracy.

But those are people we don’t need to talk about because they wouldn’t pay anyway.

And oft-overlooked, but lots of them couldn't pay. Especially today, arbitrary spending is limited for a lot of people, and I'd hazard a guess again that the vast majority can't afford eight streaming services. They'll buy a couple they find the most value in, and then when they're out of money, how is anyone harmed if they just download content on some of the others?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With what money do you suggest people who make the games or the movies should be paid? The way of least resistance is an incredible weak argument to justify taking the work of others without paying for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The money that their employer gives them?

How is it weak? And why do you ignore the other thing i wrote about the better product?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And the money grows on trees? You do realise that the money comes from people purchasing the product?

Slower software because of DRM is an issue for, I estimate, perhaps 1 % of the software that is pirated on a regular basis. If even that.

The few seconds of a screen you "have to wait through", no, I do not think that justifies not paying for an entire movie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

not all of it.

You estimate wrong.

Why not?